Saturday, August 28, 2010

Debunking Loftus: Setting John Straight: Maybe He Needs an Outsider Test?

It always helps to have backup when you are wading into hostile territory. I've been commenting on John Loftus' blog Debunking Christianity. Some people have been, most have been - who have posted comments - have been mean, close-minded, arrogant, and condescending - while accusing me and other Christians of the same attitudes. Fortunately, a scholar like JP Holding is really reading the Loftus' blog. He isn't just ignoring it and refuting things that he doesn't know anything about.
John just committed unintended irony #5,764,382 with this one...
Quote of the Day by a Christian Named Marcus McElhaney
By John W. Loftus at 8/27/2010
" Emory and Greg, I concede that the Bible is indeed confusing...to both of you! Other people don't agree with you[r or] Greg's thoughts on how confusing the Bible is. Maybe you just need to study harder."
This quote is utterly ridiculous to the nth degree. If we study harder then we'd come to Marcus's conclusions, right? Right! With thinking skills like the ones Marcus displays here at DC, no wonder he believes. If Marcus is the example then we need to be almost brain dead to believe.
Uh....but who was it who said in defense of his "Outsider Test" that the main sign of whether you pass is that you come to believe the same things John Loftus does?
The more John talks, the more he helps us out!
I agree with Holding. The more you oppose the truth, the more you actually help.

7Now we pray to God that you will not do anything wrong. Not that people will see that we have stood the test but that you will do what is right even though we may seem to have failed. 8For we cannot do anything against the truth, but only for the truth. 9We are glad whenever we are weak but you are strong; and our prayer is for your perfection. - 2 Corinthians 13:7-9
Thank you, John Loftus.

Debunking Loftus: Setting John Straight: Maybe He Needs an Outsider Test?
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YouTube - Sam Shamoun vs Shabir Ally (The Unedited Version)



The debate is about the Bible and the Qur'an. This by far is one of the best debates on this I have seen. If you want to see a great summary from both sides of what the arguments are and why this is important, this debate is one to watch.

YouTube - Sam Shamoun vs Shabir Ally (The Unedited Version)