Saturday, May 26, 2012

FacePlant of the Day - Debunking Christianity: Welcome to the World of Christianity

Harry McCall has posted a summarizing of what he thinks is what are the absolute truths of Christianity. Has he succeeded? Not at all. Take a look at what he thinks you believe if you are a Christian. 

As a Christian, you are now following THE supreme God who created the universe. Here are the absolute truths that make your God special:


A. Your God is omnipotent (Having unlimited power and authority). B. Your God is omnipresent (He is present everywhere). C. Your God is omniscient (Having total knowledge). D. Your God commands billions of angels of which just one could destroy the world. As a Christian, you are now part of a large and diverse group totaling over 2.2 billion members that has a yearly worldwide budget totaling approximately one half of a trillion dollars. However! On the other side is God’s arch enemy and now your enemy too: Satan. Satan leads a small army of fallen angels (called demons). A. Satan has limited power (Only what little control God gives him). B. Satan has no earthly members (Just a few "Dabblers"). C. And most of all, Satan has no budget because he has no income from tithes and offerings. BUT YET: According to God's own word the Bible - especially the Book of Revelation; God with all the above supreme attributes is now actually losing a battle He created by putting the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden and by casting Satan and his demons out of Heaven to earth. Moreover, God has even sacrificed His only begotten Son – Jesus - to defeat Satan and sin. At the end of the age, all of humanity will one day stand before your God at the Great White Throne Judgment to give an account of their lives. If they are non-Christians, then they must tell this all knowing God exactly why they as simple mortal sinful creatures with limited understandings screwed up; after which they will be cast into a Lake of Fire whose smoke rises forever all eternity to fry in torment forever. HOW ARE WE TO MAKE SENSE OF ALL OF THE ABOVE? It's a Divine Mystery (A theological term coined by the Catholic Church).

One good thing that we can say in McCall's favor is that at least he does attempt to read the comments of those who disagree with him. Of course reading them and understanding them are not the same thing. He next quoted one of them

Below is the response to this 2006 post here and the supposedly refutation by the TRIABLOGGERS Christian apologetic blog: "It's amazing how many unbiblical assumptions these apostates are able to cram into the Biblical narrative. You see, these apostates love to fluctuate in and out of internal critiques. They'll do a post like this one where they appear to be taking Biblical data into account (consider the "statistics" that were cited), but then they'll push aside everything the Bible says about the subject only to insert their own atheistic presuppositions. But of course the Bible disagrees with atheistic assumptions!"
Harry McCall

McCall does not seem to understand what unbiblical assumptions he uses in critiquing Christianity. Let's look list a few of them he committed in the paragraph above.

1, No where does the Bible tells us how many angels there are. 
2. No where does the Bible tells us how many demons there are other than 1/3 of the angels rebelled against God and followed Lucifer.
3. No where does the Bible describe Satan as God's archenemy. To be an archenemy you'd have to be a threat. The Devil has already lost this. 

Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.” - Revelations 12:12

And the Bible also tells us that Jesus' victory blindsided Satan. He didn't know that Jesus' death sealed his defeat. 

No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. - 1 Corinthians 2:7,8

4.  Judgement Day isn't about you explaining to God why you messed up the life and time He gave you. It's when you will be held accountable for the things you have said and done. You will be judged. And if you are clothed in the rags of your own righteousness instead of Jesus' you will be going to perdition.
5. You won't need to explain or give an excuse for your own corruption and imperfection

for he knows how we are formed, he remembers that we are dust. - Psalm 103:14

6. We are not supposed to make sense of it apart from God allowing us to understand it. If you can't understand any of it, it's because you are too carnally minded and God has not put His spirit into you. McCall illustrates this with every post he writes. 


Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. - Romans 8: 5-8

If you are going to talk about what the Bible teaches you should get it right. Here is a comment from this post:

NenoDecember 
Why did god feel the need to prove anything about his character to himself or to anyone? Why could he not have been satisfied to know this about himself and leave it at that? Why the need to create a world and conscious beings to whom you can show your glory? Was he not satisfied to just know it about himself? Is he not all-sufficient? Why does he feel the need to create these very real people to show his glory to and expose these very real people, who he loves, to sin and evil and then send these very real people to hell? Isn’t he really just doing all of this for himself while real created beings burn in hell and suffer unending misery for all eternity because of it? This is not a divine mystery--it is divine psychopathic, ego-maniacal selfishness with a touch of stupidity.

Paul answered you

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory — 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? - Romans 9:19-24

Debunking Christianity: Welcome to the World of Christianity

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