Friday, April 19, 2013

FacePalm of the Day - Debunking Christianity: Nathan Phelps (Apostate Son of Fred Phelps) On Faith

John Loftus posted the following quote from Nathan Phelps who is the son of Fred Phelps of Westboro Baptist Church who turned away from his father's teaching and unfortunately did not turn to God.

 Here's what I don't understand. When pressed reasonable religious folks concede that faith is what justifies their notion of god. But they all spend sooo much time learning and regurgitating all these biblical arguments that "prove" god. It seems to me if you're going to invoke faith, just stop there. No need to reason it out or rationalize. In fact a more consistent position would be to spout some gibberish then end with "therefore god!" Am I wrong?

Yes, he is wrong. But given the teachings of his Father of course he would not know what Faith is.  I wonder what is John Loftus' excuse for not knowing what Faith is? Given scripture none of us have a good excuse for mistaking faith for believing something despite evidence that something is not true. No one in the Bible was ever asked to believe God despite evidence and without verification. Rationalization is not necessary when you have evidence. The same is true now. Born-Again Christians do not reason backwards. Everyone comes to faith through God revealing himself to them. External scientific and historical evidence just adds to the evidence you already have. Given that the Westboro Baptist Church does not teach Biblical truths, its not surprise that he missed it. You can turn your back on Westboro's heresies without turning your back on God. In fact if we want to find God you have to turn our backs on their heresies and our own..

Debunking Christianity: Nathan Phelps (Apostate Son of Fred Phelps) On Faith

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