tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post2025522937318002872..comments2024-02-29T23:54:20.606-08:00Comments on What had happen' was.....: FacePalm of the Day #142 - Epic Fail: Tisk Tisk, Johnny P Response #13mmcelhaneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-7699599857772384172011-10-30T18:33:07.622-07:002011-10-30T18:33:07.622-07:00And by the way, your arguments and attempts at &qu...And by the way, your arguments and attempts at "rebuttal" are only worth "I know you are but what am I?" responses, but I've chosen to be gracious.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-31914145371489885452011-10-30T18:31:52.231-07:002011-10-30T18:31:52.231-07:00My mother would tell you to get better arguments. ...My mother would tell you to get better arguments. And by "better" she'd mean "meaningful".mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-91577361608310480252011-10-30T17:19:37.665-07:002011-10-30T17:19:37.665-07:00Are you serious? That is a 5 year old's taunt ...Are you serious? That is a 5 year old's taunt of "I know you are, you said you are, but what am I?"<br /><br />Does your mum know what you're doing on the computer. Watch it, she might come and tell you off!Jonathan MS Pearcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281228447185474180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-57800193051742806352011-10-30T16:43:14.379-07:002011-10-30T16:43:14.379-07:00Nice tally for your work? Got help counting, didn&...Nice tally for your work? Got help counting, didn't you?mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-44540718869728312232011-10-30T16:38:05.052-07:002011-10-30T16:38:05.052-07:00I'm still waiting for a good response. 96 fall...I'm still waiting for a good response. 96 fallacies and counting...<br /><br />Persistence 10/10<br />Ability to follow a simple argument 0/10<br />Ability to represent someone else's argument accurately, maturely and responsibly 0/10<br />Ability 0/10Jonathan MS Pearcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281228447185474180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-56369506730375975522011-10-30T16:34:07.623-07:002011-10-30T16:34:07.623-07:00Make a good argument.Make a good argument.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-69236254753318886982011-10-30T09:33:12.188-07:002011-10-30T09:33:12.188-07:00Grow up.Grow up.Jonathan MS Pearcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281228447185474180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-44698166821047619222011-10-30T09:29:10.421-07:002011-10-30T09:29:10.421-07:00Response: http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uplo...Response: <a href="http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2009/12/faceplant-dive.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2009/12/faceplant-dive.jpg</a>mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-72606022389086058382011-10-30T01:31:13.383-07:002011-10-30T01:31:13.383-07:00blah blah blah fallacy blah fallacy blah blah fall...blah blah blah fallacy blah fallacy blah blah fallacy.<br /><br />The only reason I keep posting is because you keep misrepresenting me. Ant that is, to me, a personal insult. It is hard not to respond to someone who is lying about you and what you say.<br /><br />However, I couldn't even care about that anymore. Your points are tedious, as well as being wrong. You put words in my mouth like giant straw men, and I have lost the appetite to reason with someone so irrational.<br /><br />I never claimed of this argument what you think or want me to have claimed. Where you take this argument is another issue. For example, I would look at this in probabilities. Is this situation of natural evil better explained by your version of God, or by atheism. Using standards for assessing explanatory power and scope, and Ockham's Razor, the answer is that this evidence is clearly far more probable and explicable under atheism (not that I'm strictly an atheist anyway, but logically an agnostic).<br /><br />When you take this in combination with all the other logical issues of God (unable to explain the compossibles of subsets of humans who would freely love him and only creating them, thus avoiding the necessity of hell and such evil and suffering at all, a point Craig was unable to refute, failure of theodicies to explain evil effectively such as the natural death of 3/4 of all human foetuses before birth, issues of divine personhood, exegesis and historicity of the bible, physics of time, the fact we have no free will, the special pleading of Christianity over any other religion, comparative religions better explaining events like the flood, the impossibility of biblical accounts such as the flood, the failure and incoherence of arguments such as the KCA and Moral Argument, imperfect revelation such that some 32,000 denominations of Christianity exist etc etc I could go on ad infinitum).<br /><br />You think you are all that, you really do. Your self-delusion matches the delusion of your belief. Good luck in life being a more critical thinker. I would advise doing some sort of philosophy qualification, unless your cognitive dissonance forces you only to do things which will cohere with your presupposed belief.Jonathan MS Pearcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281228447185474180noreply@blogger.com