tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post5072650567014850707..comments2024-02-29T23:54:20.606-08:00Comments on What had happen' was.....: What the Bible Says - And Doesn't Say - About Homosexualitymmcelhaneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-5686325865180777492014-05-01T23:14:47.568-07:002014-05-01T23:14:47.568-07:00Howdy! I just want to give a huge thumbs up for th...Howdy! 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If you think I should not resist you and let you disrespect me - "turning the other cheek" - then you must think you are evil.</b><br /><br />Wow, simply wow. See comment about myopia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-58517961740785000102011-03-30T11:43:41.857-07:002011-03-30T11:43:41.857-07:00No, I don't think you are evil. You do. If you...No, I don't think you are evil. You do. If you think I should not resist you and let you disrespect me - "turning the other cheek" - then you must think you are evil. <br /><br />I don't think that is what Jesus is saying in the passage. You do. As a Christian of course you have to take things but given the examples I gave with Jesus, Paul, and Elijah show exactly what I'm saying. <br /><br />As for blaspheming the Holy Spirit, that's not what Jesus meant. You're just being stupid in trying to be funny. Epic fail.<br /><br />So you say you deny "evil" but you can't deny it and hold me accountable for not "turning the other cheek" (in your opinion). But you think that it w0ould be good if I thought you were evil. That's inconsistent. "And inconsistency is the first sign of a failed argument". But of course it comes to no surprise that you miss that. The question is: do you think that you are evil? Do you think the passage is about you and your interaction with me? I don't think so. And passive self-defense is still self-defense.<br /><br />I'll keep my promise however, this is the last time I directly respond to you in comments. If you choose to continue to comment here that's fine. If you curse or disrespect anyone I will delete your comment.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-87702350697076921592011-03-30T11:27:13.870-07:002011-03-30T11:27:13.870-07:00Marcus, the point being giving the soldiers more p...Marcus, the point being giving the soldiers more property or walking with them further doesn’t defy them by putting them in a weaker position like you wish “turning the other cheek” implied. <br /><br />You are reaching. You’re letting what you desire to be true override finding what is actually true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-83653928315288236242011-03-30T11:19:19.927-07:002011-03-30T11:19:19.927-07:00The holy spirit is not real, and if it was it woul...The holy spirit is not real, and if it was it would be a stupid doo-doo head. <br /><br />How was that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-78277320280757204572011-03-30T11:17:56.613-07:002011-03-30T11:17:56.613-07:00Oh since it is obvious you don't know. In Jesu...<b>Oh since it is obvious you don't know. In Jesus' time it was law that Roman soldiers could come commandeer your property or "volunteer" you to carry equipment for a mile. That was part of the context that Jesus was speaking.</b><br /><br />I am aware of this. They also could press citizens into accompanying soldiers between mile markers as "hostages". Still, being nice to your oppressive overlords seems to support my position more than it does yours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-91034422273103793582011-03-30T11:15:16.955-07:002011-03-30T11:15:16.955-07:00Marcus, seriously, I don't believe the bible i...Marcus, seriously, I don't believe the bible is anything other than a collection of old booklets. I don't believe "evil" is something other than a human value judgment.<br /><br />I'd think it was hilarious if you thought I was evil, but given much of what the collection of old booklets you presuppose to hold divine wisdom says, you should be obligated to think that I am. <br /><br />I am happy to blaspheme against the holy spirit though. Would that do it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-49088576260190680192011-03-30T11:12:18.565-07:002011-03-30T11:12:18.565-07:00Actually, most christians disagree with you in the...<b>Actually, most christians disagree with you in theory, but definitely not in practice. Most christians (and based on your blog yourself included) live lives indistinguishable from non-christians.</b><br /><br />Prove it. <br /><br /><b>Probably the most damning thing about your religion.</b><br /><br />Again begging and dodging. Have you got anything better?mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-217570096771869642011-03-30T11:09:33.758-07:002011-03-30T11:09:33.758-07:00Oh since it is obvious you don't know. In Jesu...Oh since it is obvious you don't know. In Jesus' time it was law that Roman soldiers could come commandeer your property or "volunteer" you to carry equipment for a mile. That was part of the context that Jesus was speaking.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-74622450105741842482011-03-30T11:05:50.240-07:002011-03-30T11:05:50.240-07:00I didn't miss "the fundamental question&q...<b>I didn't miss "the fundamental question", I mocked it because it showed how blinded you are. Remember the part where I called you a myopic dingbat? </b><br /><br />No it's called hiding.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-62011835102206017322011-03-30T11:04:20.733-07:002011-03-30T11:04:20.733-07:00Giving someone your cloak is not the same thing as...Giving someone your cloak is not the same thing as being assaulted either.<br /><br />Are you an evil person or not?<br /><br />I'm waiting for your answer. You want to take the whole passage in context? Great! I'm waiting for an answer.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-51225658779750609352011-03-30T11:02:27.581-07:002011-03-30T11:02:27.581-07:00I didn't miss "the fundamental question&q...I didn't miss "the fundamental question", I mocked it because it showed how blinded you are. Remember the part where I called you a myopic dingbat?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-76364068209449440262011-03-30T11:01:09.361-07:002011-03-30T11:01:09.361-07:00Giving someone your cloak is not defiant, at least...Giving someone your cloak is not defiant, at least not in the way you mean it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-32783432454524493332011-03-30T10:52:52.946-07:002011-03-30T10:52:52.946-07:00the argument I gave is not about liberation theolo...the argument I gave is not about liberation theology. Prove you know what "turn the other cheek" means. <br /><br />Exegete it. What is Jesus saying? Show that I'm misunderstanding what the scripture is saying. Show that such a tradition was not true in the first century. <br /><br />While you are at it you missed the fundamental question:<br /><br /><b>Are you the evil person that Jesus said not to resist?</b> <br /><br />Again I challenge you, if you are an example of that person. I will give up on you and not reply against you any more.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-48398553218485727502011-03-30T10:52:52.286-07:002011-03-30T10:52:52.286-07:00the argument I gave is not about liberation theolo...the argument I gave is not about liberation theology. Prove you know what "turn the other cheek" means. <br /><br />Exegete it. What is Jesus saying? Show that I'm misunderstanding what the scripture is saying. Show that such a tradition was not true in the first century. <br /><br />While you are at it you missed the fundamental question:<br /><br /><b>Are you the evil person that Jesus said not to resist?</b> <br /><br />Again I challenge you, if you are an example of that person. I will give up on you and not reply against you any more.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-33127829448756237042011-03-30T10:48:06.264-07:002011-03-30T10:48:06.264-07:00Actually, most christians disagree with you in the...Actually, most christians disagree with you in theory, but definitely not in practice. Most christians (and based on your blog yourself included) live lives indistinguishable from non-christians. <br /><br />Probably the most damning thing about your religion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-46713775914240577562011-03-30T10:46:14.212-07:002011-03-30T10:46:14.212-07:00If you are an evil person then you admit the Bible...<b>If you are an evil person then you admit the Bible is true and you deserve hell and you are alright with that.</b><br /><br />Wow, you really are a myopic dingbat. <br /><br />As for your understanding of "Turn the other cheek", most christians disagree with you. Most, serious theologians haven't taken liberation theology seriously for decades. But you always have your Alamo of "but some fringe people do agree with me!" to fall back to. <br /><br />See my comment about your unequal evidential standards. Soak it in. It'll do you good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-60848596933847604592011-03-30T10:25:02.814-07:002011-03-30T10:25:02.814-07:00Again, I totally agree, nothing wrong with giving ...<b>Again, I totally agree, nothing wrong with giving as good as you get. But if you really were permeated by some divine something that had some association with Jesus, I tend to think Matthew 5:39 would mean a little more to you. </b><br /><br />Proof positive that you have no idea what being a Christian is and you have no idea how to correctly handle scripture.<br /><br /><i>39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. - Matthew 5:39</i><br /><br />Do you really think that Jesus is directing his followers to be a doormat for his enemies? I have a much higher regard for scripture than you do. I'll humor your misunderstanding. Admit that you are an "evil person" and I'll repent for standing up against your treatment of me and not do it again. If you are an evil person then you admit the Bible is true and you deserve hell and you are alright with that. Although I could easily defend myself and my beliefs against you and every right to do so, I will stop doing so and turn my attention to people worthy of the Gospel.<br /><br />But for your own edification (and I'm wasting my time if you are an evil person) you should know that in the context of the first century, turning the other cheek when someone slaps you was defiant. They are going to hit you with the back of the right-hand to humiliate and disrespect you. If you turn the other cheek, it forces them to hit you with their left-hand, but that is undesireable because the left was considered to be the week and if they want to still slap you without moving their own position they would have to slap you with front of your hand, admitting that you are equal to them. <br /><br />Learned something? I hope so.<br /><br />On top of that have you ever noticed how our Lord and Savior dealt with his critics? He mocked them in the strongest possible way and showed how truly stupid they were. They asserted they knew they were right and know reality. Like you. Paul did the same against those who opposed his work and his critics. Elijah definitely did the same. You sure you know your Bible? Doesn't seem like it.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-70860661015885453602011-03-30T03:17:36.222-07:002011-03-30T03:17:36.222-07:00Why do you get to make fun of me and I just stand ...<b>Why do you get to make fun of me and I just stand by? I don't think so. What's wrong with that? Nothing.</b><br /><br />Again, I totally agree, nothing wrong with giving as good as you get. But if you really were permeated by some divine something that had some association with Jesus, I tend to think Matthew 5:39 would mean a little more to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-59846575250967800512011-03-30T03:13:51.660-07:002011-03-30T03:13:51.660-07:00I'm not sure how I have ill-behaved. You are t...<b>I'm not sure how I have ill-behaved. You are the one who name-calls and curses and act like one who has a vocabulary of a thug. That's not me.</b><br /><br />I was talking about your perceived ability to "see clearly" coupled with your total lack of critical thinking skills as evidence you are just some schmo and not "permeated" by some divine something or other. Likely, you'll put the humble hat back on and say "oh but I am just some schmo" but that doesn't square with and totally undermines the comments like the one I originally commented on.<br /><br />I couldn't care less if you name call or curse, knock yourself out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-33314684788284606142011-03-29T20:19:48.843-07:002011-03-29T20:19:48.843-07:00Nope. I'm aware that we all do it, and as a re...<b>Nope. I'm aware that we all do it, and as a result at least attempt to mitigate it. You it would appear, not so much. Read back through your posts, it's as evident as the nose on your face. </b><br /><br />It's real interesting. Just because I agree that the Bible is true, I must be wrong? So according to you that means either I am just as blind as you or less blind than you? That makes a lot of sense.<br /><br /><b>You don't realize that when you say stuff like this, stuff so absolutely contrary to how you actually behave (at least on this blog), it's just another nail in the coffin of the idea that you actually have some divine something indwelling within you.</b><br /><br />I'm not sure how I have ill-behaved. You are the one who name-calls and curses and act like one who has a vocabulary of a thug. That's not me. In contrast I've been way more kind to you than you have been to me. I've made fun of you? Sure. Why do you get to make fun of me and I just stand by? I don't think so. What's wrong with that? Nothing.<br /><br />Saying that I'm praying that God will open your eyes and bless you is genuine hope for your repentance. Truth is it doesn't matter if I'm right if you end up in hell. I'd rather God just save you than to be a stumbling block. I'm not the problem your own arrogance and pride is the problem. I'm not saying I'm better than you. If God didn't bless me, I'd be worse off than you are now. I don't get any credit because I see it and you are less because you don't. I didn't see it either once upon a time. God had mercy on me. I hope he has mercy on you also.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-90660999450545044122011-03-29T17:09:43.461-07:002011-03-29T17:09:43.461-07:00You are blind to your own lack of and twisting of ...<b>You are blind to your own lack of and twisting of evidence</b><br /><br />Nope. I'm aware that we all do it, and as a result at least attempt to mitigate it. You it would appear, not so much. Read back through your posts, it's as <i>evident</i> as the nose on your face. <br /><br /><b>I hope God frees you of them so you can see clearly.</b><br /><br />You don't realize that when you say stuff like this, stuff so absolutely contrary to how you actually behave (at least on this blog), it's just another nail in the coffin of the idea that you actually have some divine something indwelling within you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-49765693096515167562011-03-29T16:47:01.684-07:002011-03-29T16:47:01.684-07:00You are blind to your own lack of and twisting of ...You are blind to your own lack of and twisting of evidence, I hope God frees you of them so you can see clearly.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-85974261765374458762011-03-29T12:56:42.973-07:002011-03-29T12:56:42.973-07:00But you weren't born again.
This is just a me...<b>But you weren't born again.</b><br /><br />This is just a mental device that lets you keep believing what you want to believe. <br /><br />If you take away anything from this, let it be that you do have drastically unequal evidential standards which functions as a safety net for the beliefs you want to be true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com