tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post6926316914581701807..comments2024-02-29T23:54:20.606-08:00Comments on What had happen' was.....: Three Problems of Evil by Peter S. Williams - Apologetics 315mmcelhaneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-37787819533801224852010-12-10T11:23:43.106-08:002010-12-10T11:23:43.106-08:00Ai! Ai! Cthulhu fthagn!!!!Ai! Ai! Cthulhu fthagn!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-91070318239079831272010-12-10T10:56:50.273-08:002010-12-10T10:56:50.273-08:00I could make all kinds of humorous
Star Wars refe...I could make all kinds of humorous <br />Star Wars references and although it's hard not to, it is not what you need. You need the love of God to break up your hard heart so you can truly see Him and know He is there with you always. I'll bed praying that God blesses you with Himself.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-25666635800301556762010-12-10T10:27:33.131-08:002010-12-10T10:27:33.131-08:00May the Force be with you, for always.May the Force be with you, for always.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-74225973503647674712010-12-10T09:52:02.864-08:002010-12-10T09:52:02.864-08:00May God keep your mind in perfect peace and bless ...May God keep your mind in perfect peace and bless yoummcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-26809665921591814372010-12-10T07:22:15.450-08:002010-12-10T07:22:15.450-08:00Flurg nuzzle you.Flurg nuzzle you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-38862196437846696452010-12-09T19:27:38.424-08:002010-12-09T19:27:38.424-08:00God love you.God love you.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-49719677865597382792010-12-09T19:23:45.572-08:002010-12-09T19:23:45.572-08:00I care not what Paul said, and like what I said be...I care not what Paul said, and like what I said before, have a good night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-57270950828986286762010-12-09T15:35:25.629-08:002010-12-09T15:35:25.629-08:00Paul made the same "expansion". It's...Paul made the same "expansion". It's also not outside of what Peter Williams was talking about. Just because you can't get around it is no reason to "poo poo" it.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-71023009834908197382010-12-09T15:30:15.356-08:002010-12-09T15:30:15.356-08:00Well of course you can, but then it's not the ...Well of course you can, but then it's not the analogy I originally brought up. <br /><br />Also, your "expansion" is silly and nonsensical in light of the original analogy, but this is a dumb thing to argue about so have a good night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-12595551124145780452010-12-09T14:30:38.273-08:002010-12-09T14:30:38.273-08:00Who says I can't expand the analogy? Believe w...Who says I can't expand the analogy? Believe what ever you want, given you do that anyway.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-39868273244052054972010-12-09T13:56:03.900-08:002010-12-09T13:56:03.900-08:00Clearly "light" can represent other thin...Clearly "light" can represent other things in other analogies, but in the analogy in the talk you posted, it represented something specific. It's ok you didn't listen to it, not worries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-80477736492237242662010-12-09T13:23:06.329-08:002010-12-09T13:23:06.329-08:00Ryan, I can discuss the lecture in as much or less...Ryan, I can discuss the lecture in as much or less detail as I want. It's my blog. <br /><br />The light doesn't just refer to Naturalism. IT refers to what you know and to what you can observe - the evidence that you have.<br /><br />All of the Christian denominations you mentioned all fundamentally agree on the essentials that make one a Christian. Therefore your understanding of what being a Christian means is wrong. <br /><br />Just like calling yourself "atheist" doesn't mean much if you can define it anyway you want...so is the same for everything.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-88051150280391479172010-12-09T13:14:06.920-08:002010-12-09T13:14:06.920-08:00You once defined "Christian" as anyone w...<b>You once defined "Christian" as anyone who claimed to be a Christian.</b><br /><br />Still do, I am however aware that there are preterist, amillennialist, postmillennialist, calvinists, arminians, catholics, cafateria catholics, greek orthodox, amish, etc... etc... etc...<br /><br />And the light is refering to naturalism. Did you even listen to the talk you posted? Reading back over your "analysis" of it, there's actually no firm indication you did.<br /><br />You'll note the word "atheist" appears in the various versions of atheism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-67639972551330972922010-12-09T13:04:29.396-08:002010-12-09T13:04:29.396-08:00Nice play with semantics. You once defined "C...Nice play with semantics. You once defined "Christian" as anyone who claimed to be a Christian. Why should I allow you to change the historical definition of "Atheism" - belief that there is no God? <br /><br />And "light" is used as a direct analogy to the knowledge of God's existence. Remember Romans 1. Maybe you should go back and read it and this time it will actually take root and you will understand it.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-79752423491545245872010-12-09T12:48:18.181-08:002010-12-09T12:48:18.181-08:00Not all, just what are known as "hard" o...Not all, just what are known as "hard" or "Strong" atheist. <br /><br /><b>Knowledge of God is analogous to a lamp's light.</b><br /><br />You apparently badly misunderstood the analogy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-74850016836808739192010-12-09T12:21:59.295-08:002010-12-09T12:21:59.295-08:001) All atheists make claims and judgments about wh...1) All <b>a</b>theists make claims and judgments about what's beyond the lamp's light.<br /><br />2) <b>Knowledge of God is</b> analogous to a lamp's light. It's <b>known and very much knowable</b>.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-68816950665449677222010-12-09T11:50:03.936-08:002010-12-09T11:50:03.936-08:001) All theists make claims and judgements about wh...1) All theists make claims and judgements about what's beyond the lamp's light.<br /><br />2) The universe may or may not actually be analogous to a lamp's light. It's unknown and perhaps unknowable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-56062106120814786722010-12-09T11:40:48.354-08:002010-12-09T11:40:48.354-08:00No one is saying that one should make claims or ju...No one is saying that one should make claims or judgments about the area outside the lamp's light any more than one is warranted to assume that there is nothing beyond the lamp's light. Paul talked about this in Acts 17. Specifically we ought to "grope about" in the dark looking for God. You should keep groping.mmcelhaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567242628894011776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1767816867480783958.post-22110155386411052932010-12-09T07:32:23.441-08:002010-12-09T07:32:23.441-08:00The lamp post story is a good analogy for one who ...The lamp post story is a good analogy for one who would like to presuppose the supernatural, but it misses something critical, one is not warranted to make claims or judgments about the area beyond the lamp’s light.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com