Islam and Christianity A Common Word: Was Christ Crucified To Death? Debate: Hamza Abdul Malik vs. Rev Donald Deluk

Here is debate between Hamza Abdul Malik (Muslim) vs. Rev Donald Deluk (Christian) concerning the question: Was Jesus Crucified. Deluk did much better than I thought he would. I have huge problems with Hamza Abdul Malik's arguments. He tried to deny the crucifixion and resurrection using the following points (not all that he used):

1. No one is born in sin given that John the Baptist and Jeremiah were sanctified at birth. sanctified does not equal "sinless".
2. Jesus did not have the Holy Spirit until His baptism - wrong. John 1:1-18 refutes this.
3. If there is no sin curse, then there is no need for atonement. I would agree, but no where does the bible say Jeremiah or John the Baptist were sinless. That's a Muslim assumption made about all prophets. Only Jesus is sinless according to the Bible.
4. Paul did not care about the historical Jesus because he did not talk about what Jesus did. Arguing from silence is no argument and it's not complete silence. Paul tells us a lot more details about the last supper that are not found in the Gospels
5. Hamza Abdul Malik argued that Jesus was alive because Johnah was alive in the belly of the fish. That is not what Jesus was referring to. That pushes the analogy too far beyond the point Jesus made.
6. Hamza Abdul Malik said that the Jews said that when Jesus was alive He would rise from the dead and they were worried because they knew Jesus was taken down alive. That is wrong. The text is clear. Jesus died.
7. Hamza Abdul Malik argued that the angels at the tomb said that Jesus was alive, but he neglects to mention that the angels said "He has risen". From what? The dead!
8. Hamza Abdul Malik argue that "giving up the ghost" does not mean die??! I can't believe hes aid it with a strraight face!
9. Hamza Abdul Malik' tried to show that the resurrected bidy is not supposed to be tangible but  Jesus did when he appeared to the disciples. He equates "spirit" with resurrected body and that is not what a resurected body is. According to the Bible Jesus is alive and had flesh.  The same body but trsnaformed in a way we don't understand yet.

Hamza Abdul Malik twists and distorts a lot. Nothing that I think Deluk could not have dalt with had he had the time. Hamza Abdul Malik was James White's first Muslim debate opponent. I'd like to see that debate I will look for it it.







Islam and Christianity A Common Word: Was Christ Crucified To Death? Debate: Hamza AbdulMalik vs. Rev Donald Deluk