I was going to let this one go, but this one so silly I had to comment. deserves FacePalm in triplicate. John Loftus quoted another person on his on his blog: whom he obviously agrees with.
What evidence would I accept for the claim that god exists? That's easy. All he would have to do is show up, once, -or- he could supernaturally change the way my brain works so that I no longer need evidence and am willing to accept as fact, wild claims that are based on ancient religious documents.
At least Loftus and Bob are honest. There is no evidence good enough to make a unbeliever give up his/her
unbelief without direct intervention from
God. However it's not because God changes you so that you don't need evidence to believe, God frees your mind so that you can accept the evidence that we do have instead of looking for loop holes for wiggle room so that one does not have to believe. That is why Loftus' comment makes sense - there is no evidence that will turn a man or woman to God without direct intervention from God. Consider the following passage:
5Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; 7the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. 8Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. - Romans 8:5-8
The Bible clearly says that in our sinful state, we are unable to obey God and minds are hostile to God. Does that sound familiar? Look at the attitude of many
atheists have towards the commands of God in Bible. Further another passages tells us even more
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19
Now look at the summary of John Loftus' logic:
Thanks to Mariano Grinbank for pointing out this graphic to me. Very timely. I got this graphic a few minutes before I saw the quote from John Loftus' blog. What is
adultery? A
sin. Not just a sin but something that Loftus knew was wrong. Instead of taking the responsibility for his own actions, Lofuts says there is no God because God did not stop him or change him. Reminds me of
Jesus' words about men loving their sin rather than the light they have been given. The evidence is plain. But if there is a God that means that we are accountable for the sins we commit.
I want to be clear. I'm not picking on Loftus. All of us are evil and deserve hell. This is the bottom line. Believers are saved because of God's
grace and goodness not because of anything in us. I just wish people would be honest about their sin rather than just pretend that there is not enough evidence to believe in God and that he has spoken to us through the Bible.
Debunking Christianity: Quote of the Day, by Bob
Here is another gem tweeted by Brian Auten. It's an article by Frank Tipler talking about Stephen Hawking's latest theories and why they don't prove that God exists. As a bonus there is a video of a recent taping of the Unbelievable Radio program in the UK. I've heard the radio program before and love it. In this episode we have:
