I recently wrote a post on my blog explaining why I HATE Christianity which received over 3500 hits in one day, so I thought I would also submit it to DC to gauge the reaction here. I have put some of the Christian responses, and my counters at the bottom of the post. Enjoy!
There are many reasons why I hate Christianity--and yes, I do literally hate Christianity. Why?--because of the negative doctrines it promotes, and the resulting "moral laxity"--which the Christian philosopher Pelagius pointed out long ago. Let me explain by offering the following analogy.
Pelagius was not a Christian. He was a heretic. He denied that faith in Jesus is necessary for salvation. That isn't Christian. There have been two past posts discussing how bad the
"moral laxity" charge really doesn't hold any logic - just blind emotion.
The following would be a life situation for many, and is analyzed from a Christian perspective:
Christians believe they are born bad, and cannot help but to do bad things because they are "born sinners." (Original sin) Now, a Christian man who says he loves his wife still beats her because she doesn't do as she is told. She forgives him for hurting her every time, because that is what her religion tells her to do. The man beats her because the same religion tells him he has authority over her, and he cannot help but to do bad things, so he does them thinking he can't help himself--but it's ok, because his god will forgive him. Until one fateful day when a beating ends in death, and he kills his wife with his bare hands.
What scriptures would a Christian stand on to believe that one the husband should abuse and beat his wife and that the wife should take it? Book, Chapter, and Verse? None. If a husband abuses his wife she should leave to protect himself. My prayer would be that he would seek to change and stop. When people make such a silly argument I wonder if it is out of ignorance or dishonesty. How can someone read the following and come away thinking that the Bible says the husband can treat his wife any kind of way and please God.
In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. - Ephesians 5:28
THIS IS WHY I HATE CHRISTIANITY. I hate the fact that this religion tells people they are EXPECTED to behave badly.
God does not expect us to behave badly. He expects Holiness.
I hate the fact that there are NO CONSEQUENCES for their bad behavior in this life or the next for believers as long as they sincerely say "sorry" to Jesus. What about the victims?? What compensation do they get under the Christian system? None. There is no justice for victims of Christian crime--unless it is through secular laws. Therefore, Christianity in and of itself is IMMORAL and UNJUST. This is the biggest reason why I HATE Christianity.
So let's get this straight: You will choose to go to hell, give up a personal and close relationship with God, because another sinner that you judge to be worse than yourself (and you are no better than they) finds the same forgiveness and love you reject. Yup, that's logical.
If people believed they could do the right thing the first time, and took responsibility for their own actions instead of having "Jesus" do that for them, the world would be a much better place to live in.
People who turn their lives to Christ don't get to avoid consequences. They are forgiven because of Jesus not for anything we have done. No one is good enough on your own. How many of the commandments have you broken? I'm not talking about adultery or stealing or murder...what about lying? Honoring your parents? Putting God first in your life? You know you have failed....no matter how much you have tried on your own. If you have broken any one of them you have broken them all. What about the victims of your sins and mistakes? How do you deal with the consequences? How are you going to pay for that? You and I are just as guilty of sin as anyone. The difference is that Jesus is the propitiation for those who put their trust in Him. What is your propitiation?
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Christian response: You won't accomplish anything by hating anyone. Also, no studied Christians believes these things. You should read through the Gospel again and get to the core of Christian faith. No one likes an ignorant preacher- Christian or Atheist.
My counter: You are quite mistaken, as you can accomplish a great deal through hate--if you are hating the right things. Think of what could have happened if the world had not "hated" Hitler for instance. If more women "hated" their abusive husbands, maybe so many of them would not have had to die at their hands.
What is more powerful and accomplishes more: Love or Hatred?
Pelagius was not a Christian. He was a heretic. He denied that faith in Jesus is necessary for salvation. That isn't Christian. There have been two past posts discussing how bad the
"moral laxity" charge really doesn't hold any logic - just blind emotion.
The following would be a life situation for many, and is analyzed from a Christian perspective:
Christians believe they are born bad, and cannot help but to do bad things because they are "born sinners." (Original sin) Now, a Christian man who says he loves his wife still beats her because she doesn't do as she is told. She forgives him for hurting her every time, because that is what her religion tells her to do. The man beats her because the same religion tells him he has authority over her, and he cannot help but to do bad things, so he does them thinking he can't help himself--but it's ok, because his god will forgive him. Until one fateful day when a beating ends in death, and he kills his wife with his bare hands.
What scriptures would a Christian stand on to believe that one the husband should abuse and beat his wife and that the wife should take it? Book, Chapter, and Verse? None. If a husband abuses his wife she should leave to protect himself. My prayer would be that he would seek to change and stop. When people make such a silly argument I wonder if it is out of ignorance or dishonesty. How can someone read the following and come away thinking that the Bible says the husband can treat his wife any kind of way and please God.
In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. - Ephesians 5:28
or
Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives,
and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you
of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers. - 1 Peter 3: 7
THIS IS WHY I HATE CHRISTIANITY. I hate the fact that this religion tells people they are EXPECTED to behave badly.
God does not expect us to behave badly. He expects Holiness.
I hate the fact that there are NO CONSEQUENCES for their bad behavior in this life or the next for believers as long as they sincerely say "sorry" to Jesus. What about the victims?? What compensation do they get under the Christian system? None. There is no justice for victims of Christian crime--unless it is through secular laws. Therefore, Christianity in and of itself is IMMORAL and UNJUST. This is the biggest reason why I HATE Christianity.
So let's get this straight: You will choose to go to hell, give up a personal and close relationship with God, because another sinner that you judge to be worse than yourself (and you are no better than they) finds the same forgiveness and love you reject. Yup, that's logical.
If people believed they could do the right thing the first time, and took responsibility for their own actions instead of having "Jesus" do that for them, the world would be a much better place to live in.
People who turn their lives to Christ don't get to avoid consequences. They are forgiven because of Jesus not for anything we have done. No one is good enough on your own. How many of the commandments have you broken? I'm not talking about adultery or stealing or murder...what about lying? Honoring your parents? Putting God first in your life? You know you have failed....no matter how much you have tried on your own. If you have broken any one of them you have broken them all. What about the victims of your sins and mistakes? How do you deal with the consequences? How are you going to pay for that? You and I are just as guilty of sin as anyone. The difference is that Jesus is the propitiation for those who put their trust in Him. What is your propitiation?
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Christian response: You won't accomplish anything by hating anyone. Also, no studied Christians believes these things. You should read through the Gospel again and get to the core of Christian faith. No one likes an ignorant preacher- Christian or Atheist.
My counter: You are quite mistaken, as you can accomplish a great deal through hate--if you are hating the right things. Think of what could have happened if the world had not "hated" Hitler for instance. If more women "hated" their abusive husbands, maybe so many of them would not have had to die at their hands.
What is more powerful and accomplishes more: Love or Hatred?
And I have studied the religion EXTENSIVELY--I have taught it for 14 yrs at university level. The core of your philosophy is a convoluted version of "love" as illustrated above, and "forgiveness" for any heinous deed--which, as Pelagius noted long ago--leads to moral laxity. The proof is in the pudding so to speak, where we have a disproportionate amount of Christians in the penal system. You know, men who beat their wives to death--that actually get punished instead of being let off the hook.
Another Christian response: Yeah, but if people don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing. The woman is going to get beaten whether she does the dishes or not. There will always be a reason for the violence. The only realistic solution is to leave the source of the violence and abuse, be it a spouse who promised to love and cherish until death do they part or an all-loving God who promised even more.
Huh???!!! I hope no one would actually try to pass that as a response.
My counter: So, you are saying that beating a woman for not doing the dishes is justified because she is going to get beaten whether she does the dishes or not.
No, I wouldn't.
Thank you for pointing out another "beef" I have with Christianity--that being, women are treated as second class citizens, and even worse, they are treated as chattel--because that is how the Bible depicts women--as possessions. To people that follow the Bible, women are chattel--they were not even worth counting as "citizens" in the census taken by Moses in Numbers.
Sure. That's why Jesus had female disciples and women were the first witnesses to the Resurrection...oops....those points go against that the Bible tells men to mistreat women...sorry. When a man mistreats and abuse a woman it is because he is a sinner who needs Jesus not because he is a born-again Christian following The Bible. If Cathy Cooper has been studying religion for such a long time it apparently wasn't Christianity she studied.
And without Augustine's "original sin" there would be NO NEED for Jesus either. And without the "sin" there would be NO NEED for women to be beaten by men who believe they are "sinners." Therefore, we are better off without the original sin, as we have no need to be redeemed from it--leaving no excuse for "being bad" other than our own choices. If you choose to beat someone to death it will then all be on you--and you must take the consequences.
That is why unrepentant wife beaters go to hell. Don't go to hell with them. Misogyny is really evil, but it is also a symptom of a larger problem: Sin. We are all sinners even if you are not a misogynist. God holds us accountable for following his law. If you sin - like abusing your spouse - you will be held accountable. If you can't change and fully repent God will clean you up and fix your brokenness if you surrender to God and quit your hatred.
So most of the people in the penal system are both Christians and are in prisons for abusing their wives? Really? Got any numbers to substantiate that? This isn't the kind "love" commanded in the Bible. I mean just because there have been people who failed to live up to this love doesn't mean Christianity is wrong.
Another Christian response: Yeah, but if people don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing. The woman is going to get beaten whether she does the dishes or not. There will always be a reason for the violence. The only realistic solution is to leave the source of the violence and abuse, be it a spouse who promised to love and cherish until death do they part or an all-loving God who promised even more.
Huh???!!! I hope no one would actually try to pass that as a response.
My counter: So, you are saying that beating a woman for not doing the dishes is justified because she is going to get beaten whether she does the dishes or not.
No, I wouldn't.
Thank you for pointing out another "beef" I have with Christianity--that being, women are treated as second class citizens, and even worse, they are treated as chattel--because that is how the Bible depicts women--as possessions. To people that follow the Bible, women are chattel--they were not even worth counting as "citizens" in the census taken by Moses in Numbers.
Sure. That's why Jesus had female disciples and women were the first witnesses to the Resurrection...oops....those points go against that the Bible tells men to mistreat women...sorry. When a man mistreats and abuse a woman it is because he is a sinner who needs Jesus not because he is a born-again Christian following The Bible. If Cathy Cooper has been studying religion for such a long time it apparently wasn't Christianity she studied.
And without Augustine's "original sin" there would be NO NEED for Jesus either. And without the "sin" there would be NO NEED for women to be beaten by men who believe they are "sinners." Therefore, we are better off without the original sin, as we have no need to be redeemed from it--leaving no excuse for "being bad" other than our own choices. If you choose to beat someone to death it will then all be on you--and you must take the consequences.
That is why unrepentant wife beaters go to hell. Don't go to hell with them. Misogyny is really evil, but it is also a symptom of a larger problem: Sin. We are all sinners even if you are not a misogynist. God holds us accountable for following his law. If you sin - like abusing your spouse - you will be held accountable. If you can't change and fully repent God will clean you up and fix your brokenness if you surrender to God and quit your hatred.
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These are just a few reasons why I hate Christianity--there are many more. I would love to hear how others feel about it as well.
Cathy Cooper
Cathy Cooper
One must have better reasons than this to hate and reject God. It really boils down to the problem of evil. A final word:
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For
Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that
I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in
all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does
not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some
pottery for special purposes and some for common use? 22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory — 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? - Romans 9:14-24
Debunking Christianity: Why I HATE Christianity
