In my interactions with Askegg he postulated that the Bible is unbelievable because it contains zombies! Okay, I'll wait a minute while you finish laughing....done? Good! In his worldview, a zombie is anyone coming back from the dead. Zombies are fictional and therefore the Bible is lying. So he says. The issue is that, yes, zombies are fictional and the stuff of horror films, books, and video games. They are depicted in many different ways but none of the common depictions even remotely approaches what the Bible describes in the Old and New Testaments when people were raised back to life or when Jesus was resurrected. Being clinically dead and returning to life are not both necessary and sufficient criteria for determining what a zombie is. You've got to look at what a zombie is and see if they match the descriptions we see in the Bible.
1. Eat human flesh/brains 2. Bad skin and abnormalities making them look less than human and barely recognizable 3. Enhanced strength 4. Bad Breath
No one in the Bible even remotely resembles these characteristics. Besides Jesus can never die again according to the New Testament and zombies in fiction die all the time. Zombies in voodoo are not the same as zombies in fictional American cultures. Zombies in voodoo are mind-controlled and aren't dead.
To add to this discussion, earlier this week on G4TV's Attack of the Show, Kevin Pereira talked to Harvard Medical School Professor Steven C Scholzman about understanding the living dead, their biology and why they like to eat our brains. This could help Askegg a lot in defining what a zombie really is so he can see that zombies do not belong in the Bible.
You are deliberately misrepresenting what I said for you own benefit. My definition of a zombie was "one who comes back from the dead". I never said anything about eating human flesh, or brains, bad skin, enhanced strength, or bad breath. I don;t much care for the Hollywood definitions, or what bad horror movies have to say on the subject.
The "fact" Jesus can never die again it immaterial. He died once, then came back to life. According to my definition this makes him a zombie and he's not the only one. The bodies of the saints and others also rose from their graves and visited many in the cities, if the Bible is to be believed. Not only that, but Jesus also raised others from the dead too (if my memory is correct).
Interestingly, I should not that Jesus positively encouraged the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood during the last supper. At best this is cannibalism, and we could certainly tick item 1 off your list.
Jesus was also said to have flown off into Heaven after he secretly appeared to his dedicated followers (leaving no trace of his existence outside a few stories). I might count this as super strength.
1 .I didn't misrepresent you at all. I said that I rejected your definition of "Zombie" because it does not fit the definition of "zombie" in the English speaking world. Show me somewhere else your definition of "Zombie" is used.
2. None of the people who Jesus raised, nor Jesus himself look anything like the accepted definition of "zombie". And zombies are able to die again, Jesus can't. Therefore He's not a zombie. Coming back from the dead is a necessary for defining a zombie but not sufficient.
3. Jesus was speaking of eating his flesh and blood symbolicly...as in the passover meal! We know He was not talking literal. It is you deliberating misrepresenting the Bible for your own benefit. I'm not twisting anything.
4. According to 1st Corinthians 15, 500 people saw the resurrected Christ at one time, and many of them were still living at the time 1 Corinthians was written. Paul challenged people to go and talk to those people.
5. As for rejecting "Holywood definitions" of zombies, that is one of the most silly things I have ever read from you! If it weren't for Hollywood you wouldn't even know what a "zombie" is. Given that, it is pure stupidity to throw out those definitions and come up with your own.
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You are deliberately misrepresenting what I said for you own benefit. My definition of a zombie was "one who comes back from the dead". I never said anything about eating human flesh, or brains, bad skin, enhanced strength, or bad breath. I don;t much care for the Hollywood definitions, or what bad horror movies have to say on the subject.
ReplyDeleteThe "fact" Jesus can never die again it immaterial. He died once, then came back to life. According to my definition this makes him a zombie and he's not the only one. The bodies of the saints and others also rose from their graves and visited many in the cities, if the Bible is to be believed. Not only that, but Jesus also raised others from the dead too (if my memory is correct).
Interestingly, I should not that Jesus positively encouraged the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood during the last supper. At best this is cannibalism, and we could certainly tick item 1 off your list.
Jesus was also said to have flown off into Heaven after he secretly appeared to his dedicated followers (leaving no trace of his existence outside a few stories). I might count this as super strength.
As for bad skin and breath - who knows?
1 .I didn't misrepresent you at all. I said that I rejected your definition of "Zombie" because it does not fit the definition of "zombie" in the English speaking world. Show me somewhere else your definition of "Zombie" is used.
ReplyDelete2. None of the people who Jesus raised, nor Jesus himself look anything like the accepted definition of "zombie". And zombies are able to die again, Jesus can't. Therefore He's not a zombie. Coming back from the dead is a necessary for defining a zombie but not sufficient.
3. Jesus was speaking of eating his flesh and blood symbolicly...as in the passover meal! We know He was not talking literal. It is you deliberating misrepresenting the Bible for your own benefit. I'm not twisting anything.
4. According to 1st Corinthians 15, 500 people saw the resurrected Christ at one time, and many of them were still living at the time 1 Corinthians was written. Paul challenged people to go and talk to those people.
5. As for rejecting "Holywood definitions" of zombies, that is one of the most silly things I have ever read from you! If it weren't for Hollywood you wouldn't even know what a "zombie" is. Given that, it is pure stupidity to throw out those definitions and come up with your own.