Saturday, July 31, 2010

Rebutting Debunking Christianity: TOP 16 WAYS TO GET A WOMAN/ WIFE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE

John Loftus claims to understand the Bible and why it doesn't make sense. However, he endorses the following list as proof that the Bible is backwards and immoral and silly. But let's look at the list to see if this make sense.  My comments are in Red.The images on this posts illustrate how not to have maintain a  marriage.

This list was sent to me by Ed Babinski:

1) Find an attractive prisoner of war, bring her home, shave her head, trim her nails, and give her new clothes. Then she’s yours. (Deut. 21:11-13) [About the command that her nails be trimmed, you wouldn’t want her to scratch your eyes out, would you? "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and they Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou has taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldst have her to wife, Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare [trim] her nails." (Deut. 21:10,11,12)]

I think to a lot of people's minds it looks like the marriage was against the women's will. It is against our own modern sensibilities to treat women as spoils of war but it seems like certain facts are ignored. Typically when women were taken they were treated like slaves not as wives.These laws were giving prescriptions about how to treat women taken captive in war. You could not rape them, humiliate them, or mistreat them.

2) “Lay hold on” a virgin who is not betrothed to another man, and have sex with her, but afterwards pay her father a sum of money. Then she’s yours. (Deut. 22:28-29)

I'd like to know what translation this person is quoting because the NIV, KJV, and NASB do not state this as a command to tell people that this is a good idea or that we should do  this. It is saying that if you find this kind of situation, this is how you handle it. The man must marry her and treat her as a full wife.It was protection for a woman. If a man knew he would be forced to marry a woman if he raped her, pay the full dowry, and never divorce her should make a man think before he acts. You could not just rape a woman and get away with it. 

This is how the NIV translates the verse:

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver.  He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.


3) Find a prostitute and marry her. (Hosea 1:1-3)

So, is the insinuation that it's wrong to marry prostitutes? Do you remember why Hosea was told to marry Gomer?
  1 The word of the LORD that came to Hosea son of Beeri during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, and during the reign of Jeroboam son of Jehoash king of Israel:
 2 When the LORD began to speak through Hosea, the LORD said to him, "Go, take to yourself an adulterous wife and children of unfaithfulness, because the land is guilty of the vilest adultery in departing from the LORD." 3 So he married Gomer daughter of Diblaim, and she conceived and bore him a son.
So the marriage, like all marriages, was intended to illustrate God's relationship with his people. Hosea's love and devotion to wife who cheated on him and rejected him. Likewise Israel, and many of us spurn God - selfishly serving other gods like ourselves and wallowing in sin. But like how Gomer repented and gave up being a hoe and began to love and respect her husband and Hosea took her back, we can stop being hoes and return to God and He will take us back.

4) Find a man with seven daughters, and impress him by watering his flock.--Moses (Ex. 2:16-21)

And what is wrong with that? Moses didn't just water Jethro's flock, he ran off some shepherd who tried to strong-arm the girls out of the right to use the well. I don't think Jethro was the only one who was impressed. There is no indication that Zipporah was force to marry Moses against her will. Please try harder.

5) Purchase a piece of property, and get a woman as part of the deal.--Boaz (Ruth 4:5-10)

The property was icing on the cake. Gravy. Boaz and Ruth wanted to get married. Boaz purchased the property to do things decently, lawfully, and in order of the Kinsman-redeemer laws. Look them up.

6) Go to a party and hide. When the women come out to dance, grab one and carry her off to be your wife.--Benjaminites (Judges 21:19-25)

Um, God did not tell them to do that. The passage tells no one to do that. This passage merely describe what happened not condoning what happened.  Read the text.

7) Have God create a wife for you while you sleep.Note: this will cost you a rib.--Adam (Gen. 2:19-24)

Your perfect soulmate! The one for you! And all it cost was a rib? You know Adam was praising God! I have a great wife and I think she is way worth more than rib. The Bible says:

22 He who finds a wife finds what is good
       and receives favor from the LORD. - Proverbs 18:22
This tells me if you are a man with a wife, God blessed you in special way. This is no different than it was with Adam.

8) Agree to work seven years in exchange for a woman’s hand in marriage. Get tricked into marrying the wrong woman. Then work another seven years for the woman you wanted to marry in the first place. That’s right. Fourteen years of toil for a wife.--Jacob (Gen. 29:15-30)

Jacob wanted to marry Rachel so much he was willing to work 14 years for her. If you read on further he grew to love Leah as well. I don't really see why this something to be derided or ashamed of. We should all love our wives as much as Jacob loved Rachel. Jacob being tricked was pay back for how he swindled his brother Esau out of his blessing through deceit. You don't get to do something wrong and get away with it.



9) Cut 200 foreskins off of your future father-in-law’s enemies and get his daughter for a wife.--David (1 Sam. 18:27)

Again, the Bible does not tell us that this is something that we should do. It describe what David did. In that day, one could ask just about anything for a dowry. 

10) Even if no one is out there, just wander around a bit and you’ll definitely find someone.--Cain (Gen. 4:16-17)

Was that supposed to be a Joke? We know that Cain married one of his sisters given that there weren't that many human being around. Just because we have details of Eve' conception of Cain and Able does not mean she didn't have daughter before or after them. We know it takes several generation for sibling couplings to become unnecessary when there isn't a large gene pool. I don't see why this is a problem. One would expect the same thing if you accept evolution - that is unless you don't want beneficial mutations to be carried over to the next generation.  Just saying.

11) Become the emperor of a huge nation and hold a beauty contest.--Xerxes or Ahasuerus (Esther 2:3-4)

Xerxes, first wife would not live up to her duties so he had to find someone else. I mean he already took out Leonidas and the 300, burned Athens to the ground. I'm sure needed something to do.  I don't see anything wrong with holding a contest to find the best woman for the job in the Persian Empire. The real miraculous thing is that it put Esther in a position to save her people. The event is still celebrated even today. If you think it's a horrible thing Xerxes did, sure would have liked to see you tell him that.

12) When you see someone you like, go home and tell your parents, “I have seen a woman; now get her for me.” If your parents question your decision, simply say, “Get her for me. She’s the one for me.”--Samson (Judges 14:1-3)

This happens today and has been happening for a long time. God did not tell Samson to do this, but God did use it to bring Samson into conflict with the Philistines. Israelites were not even supposed to marry into the foreign nations who worshiped false gods.

13) Kill any husband and take HIS wife. (Prepare to lose four sons though.)--David (2 Sam. 11)

Now that's simply dishonest. The Bible plainly condemns David's actions. David repented and paid dearly for his sins. Would anyone truly try to argue that God was pleased with David's actions? If you would then you are lying. 

14) Wait for your brother to die. Take his widow. (It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law!)--Onan and Boaz (Deut. or Lev., example in Ruth)

The idea was to take care of widows who had no other recourse in the society at the time. It was a world where a women (and children) could become destitute without a husband, father, or brothers to provide them. Also you didn't have to do it if you didn't want to marry her, although there was pressure from society, if you didn't want to. Again the law is being misrepresented.

15) Don’t be so picky. Make up for quality with quantity.--Solomon (1 Kings 11:1-3)

Solomon disobeyed God. Again the Bible is being misrepresented. 

16) A wife?--Paul (1st Corinthians, chapter 7, see below)

It is good for a man not to touch a woman … For I would that all men were even as I myself… I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I… But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn… I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be… Are you loosed from a wife? seek not a wife… The time is short: it remains that they that have wives be as though they had none… He that is unmarried cares for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: But he that is married cares for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife. There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman cares for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married cares for the things of the world, how she may please her husband. And this I speak for your own profit… that you may attend upon the Lord without distraction. - 1 Corinthians 7:1,7,8-9,26-27,29,32-35

I think one should read 1 Corinthians 7 in its entirety to see what Paul actually wrote. And it's context. Paul is not against marriage. I find  it interesting that the line "Marriage is honorable" was left out..

All in all, I was supremely disappointed. Anyone who has ever read the scriptures for themselves should be able to see the spin that was put on the passages in this list. Referring to it as as "Poor exegesis" would be a complete misnomer.

Debunking Christianity: TOP 16 WAYS TO GET A WOMAN/ WIFE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE
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Friday, July 30, 2010

Adolf Hitler Was a Christian! Was Adolf Hitler a Christian?, part 6 | True Freethinker

I want to call attention the 6th part of Mariano Grinbank's series on analyzing the claims that some atheists like to make that Hitler was a Christian and because of his Christianity he commited the evil he did. Wait...I'll give you a minute to stop laughing.  Okay, now? Good. Go  ahead and read his brilliant essay.

Adolf Hitler Was a Christian! Was Adolf Hitler a Christian?, part 6 | True Freethinker
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Yes, The ‘UnderCovers’ Lead Actors Are Black. Get Over it People. « Crushable

Just when I think that nothing new on television could possibly happen, I get blindslided. NBC is going to air a television series about a married couple who are secret agents - who happen to be black!!! Shock! Awe!!! I just can't believe it. I never thought that we would see a series like that with black lead characters - with good actors?! I'm amazed. The leads will be Boris Kodjoe and Gugu Mbatha-Raw. IT truly is a brave new world.  I hope the series will be good.

Yes, The ‘UnderCovers’ Lead Actors Are Black. Get Over it People. « Crushablehttp://www.blogger.com/blog-this.do?zx=xgctz9d6hrye
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Thursday, July 29, 2010

Anne Rice: "I quit being a Christian" - The Deacon's Bench

I found the following news today:
She [Anne Rice] made the announcement on Facebook: "I quit being a Christian. I'm out. In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanism. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life. In the name of ... Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen."

Rice wrote "Called Out of Darkness: A Spiritual Confession," a memoir about her own conversion to Christianity--making the post a bit more surprising.

In another post, Rice also admitted, "I remain committed to Christ as always but not to being 'Christian' or to being part of Christianity."

Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com/deaconsbench/2010/07/anne-rice-i-quit-being-a-christian.html#ixzz0v6nfGt3U

I'm not surprise by this statement at all because of how Anne Rice defines "Christianity". Who says Christianity means you have to be anti-gay, anti-feminist, anti-artificial birth control, anti-Democrat, anti-secular humanism, anti-science, or anti-life. If she wants to argue that a Catholic must believe those things that's another thing. You can't use the Bible to substantiate these - with the way I think she is using those terms. For example believing that disagreeing with the the gay lifestyle does not mean hating homosexuals. The same with all of these. The Bible does not tell us to be anti-science or any of these things. Guess we need to pray for her.


Anne Rice: "I quit being a Christian" - The Deacon's Bench
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Apologetics 315: The Real Problem with Buddhism MP3 by Ellis Potter

I appreciate Brian Auten for posting this great lecture about Buddhism. I think it's worth listening to.

Apologetics 315: The Real Problem with Buddhism MP3 by Ellis Potter
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The Top 4 Moments From 4 Seasons of Heroes | Heroes: NBC TV Show/Series – News, Spoilers, Reviews, and Fan Forum

I liked the television series Heroes. Here is an interesting article listing the four greatest moments from the TV series. I agree with the list but I would add more. For example:

1. Moment where Angela Petrali tricked Sylar and Peter into thinking that they were brothers
2. The moment that Peter realized that he could control his powers in Season 1

I'd like to get season 4 on Blu-Ray.

The Top 4 Moments From 4 Seasons of Heroes | Heroes: NBC TV Show/Series – News, Spoilers, Reviews, and Fan Forum
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Apologetics 315: Pro-Life Logic by Peter Kreeft MP3 Audio

Brian Auten has posted an interesting lecture from Peter Kreeft regarding the logic of the Pro-Life position.

Apologetics 315: Pro-Life Logic by Peter Kreeft MP3 Audio
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Will Richard Dawkins debate David Berlinski? | True Freethinker

I like this article from Mariano. He explores the possibility of Richard Dawkins debating David Berlinski over Intelligent Design. I agree with Mariano, there is no good reason for this kind of debate not to happen. However I doubt Dawkins has the stones. I hope I'm wrong and the debate does happen. I'm not holding my breath. Take a look at Mariano's argument as to why this debate should happen.

Will Richard Dawkins debate David Berlinski? | True Freethinker
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Apologetics 315: The Bible and Apologetics Mp3 Series by R.C. Sproul

Thanks to Brian Auten for posting this audio links from RC Sproul's podcasts.

R.C. Sproul presents this 5-part audio series entitled The Bible and Apologetics, dealing with the trustworthiness of the Bible and apologetic considerations. This audio is from Sproul's Renewing Your Mind podcast.


Apologetics 315: The Bible and Apologetics Mp3 Series by R.C. Sproul
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Answering Muslims: Cartoon: Dearborn Police vs. the Gospel



Okay, not much commentary necessary.


Answering Muslims: Cartoon: Dearborn Police vs. the Gospel

Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Brennon's Thoughts: Verses All Arminians Should Know Part 5

Brennon has posted a great list of scriptures that support Arminianism. I'm not certain that they support the Arminian position. Rather than try to responding to them all at once, I will break them down into several posts based on how the list is presented.This topic interests me because I really wanna know what the Bible says. Here is part 5 regarding the idea that Bible teaches that humans have libertarian free will.
Verses that show man has libertarian free will
I don't see how any of the scriptures above teaches Libertarian Free will. I don't think most Calvinists deny that people have a will of their own. I think the problem is that our will does not  trump God's will.
     19 If you are willing and obedient,
           you will eat the best from the land;
     20 but if you resist and rebel,
           you will be devoured by the sword."
           For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.
     Again...the passage does not say that we can choose to willing on our own.  It tells us what happens when we become willing aand what happens if we continue resisting and rebelling.
    • Ezekiel 33:11 - Have the ability to choose from different options.
     11 Say to them, 'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?'
    God in his sovereignty give us the options we have.  This does not contradict the scriptures that cover our depravity and inability to come to God on our own. It is more about the alternatives that ever human being will be experiencing. It does not suggest to me that you have the ability to make up your own mind to change.
     30But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John.)
    As well as other scriptures point to that God does not want to destroy us. However I don't think this means that God's will can be frustrated. How can he be sovereign if he can decree something and it does not happen? He can't. 
    • John 7:17 - A person must want to do what God is giving them the grace to do. This verse shows that God allows things He doesn't want to happen.
    17If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.

    I have to look at this in contest of John 7 and 8. In that contest you can't choose to do God' will unless the father draws you.
    • 1 Corinthians 7:37 - Power over own will--not necessitated--that's the definition of LFW.
     37But the man who has settled the matter in his own mind, who is under no compulsion but has control over his own will, and who has made up his mind not to marry the virgin—this man also does the right thing.

     Again, i don't think anyone would argue that God never allows you to make decisions without his influence,  He does. That's how we sin. I just have a problem with assuming that God cannot or does not supersede human will or opinion when He wants to because He clearly does that in scripture.
     13No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.
     This example verse speaks against the idea of God not influencing our thinking or will. If God is going to prevent you from being tempted beyond what you can say "No" to, then that means he has to manipulating events around you and quite possibly what you want to do.



    I've got to admit. that unless God moves on your heart and changes your obstinate and stubborn heart that loves your sin, you will never get saved. Hell-bound rebellious sinner is the default state for everyone. We are slaves to sin without any hope of being free if God does not help us.
      Brennon's Thoughts: Verses All Arminians Should Know
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      Tuesday, July 27, 2010

      Stephen C. Meyer on Intelligent Design

      I found this video from Chad on his blog. I like the video and find it informative. I believe that ID is science. It's about looking at evidence and reasoning to the best explanation.




      Stephen C. Meyer
      Chad's post

      Adolf Hitler Was a Christian! Was Adolf Hitler a Christian?, part 4 | True Freethinker

      Here is Mariano's fourth part in his series on the misguided claims of some that Hitler was a Christian. My favorite point raised in this part is the fact if Hitler was a devout Roman Catholic the last thing he would do is praise Martin Luther. However Hitler did not care about the Bible, Theology, or anything Luther stood for. He only embraced Luther because Luther was a German. Thanks, Mariano.

      Adolf Hitler Was a Christian! Was Adolf Hitler a Christian?, part 4 | True Freethinker
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      Monday, July 26, 2010

      Adolf Hitler Was a Christian! Was Adolf Hitler a Christian?, part 3 | True Freethinker

      Mariano has published his 3rd part of his essay about whether or not Hitler was a Christian. It's funny how people will take a mad-man like Hitler at face-value about being a Christian yet they totally want to reject Jesus who was telling the truth. My favorite line from Mariano's post is:

      It is also of the utmost important that Hitler was the consummate politician and, shocking I know, said whatever was convenient to him at any given time. Now, this fact does not mean that we should be sloppy in considering what Hitler did and said. We must, in a manner of speaking, balance one “Hitler said it so it must be true” with another “Hitler said it so it must be true.” This is not as arbitrary as it may seem as the more we do this the more discernible his manipulations and motives become clear.

      I highly recommend reading this series!

      Adolf Hitler Was a Christian! Was Adolf Hitler a Christian?, part 3 | True Freethinker
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      'Lose Christianity or face expulsion'

      I heard about this story last week but I'm still shocked.  A student in Georgia, Jen Keeton, was faced with the choice: be expelled from the graduate program in Counseling at Augusta State University or give up being a Christian - changing her worldview and convictions regarding Christianity. All she is reported to have said in public was :


      she asserted homosexuality is a behavioral choice, not a "state of being" as a professor said

      It's an opinion. I agree with her, but that besides the point. Since when should you be kicked out of school because you disagree with your professor especially over an issue that is hotly debated and far from resolved?

      Keeton understands what her faculty was trying to do:
       
      "At times you said that I must alter my beliefs because they are unethical. ... Other times you said that I can keep my beliefs so long as they are only personal and I don't believe that anyone else should believe like me. But that is just another way of saying that I must alter my beliefs, because my beliefs are about absolute truth. ... In order to finish the counseling program you are requiring me to alter my objective beliefs and also to commit now that if I ever may have a client who wants me to affirm their decision to have an abortion or engage in gay, lesbian or transgender behavior, I will do that. I can't alter my biblical beliefs, and I will not affirm the morality of those behaviors in a counseling situation," she wrote. 

       So, nice as they are they did give her an out so she could graduate:

      "Anderson-Wiley confirmed that Miss Keeton will not be able to successfully complete the remediation plan and thus complete the (Augusta State University) counseling program unless she commits to affirming the propriety of gay and lesbian relationships if such an opportunity arises in her future professional efforts," it continued. 
      Faculty members had demanded she "attend at least three workshops … which emphasize … diversity training sensitive toward working with GLBTQ populations." They also wanted her to "develop" her knowledge of homosexuality by reading 10 articles and increasing her exposure to homosexuals and lesbians by attending "the Gay Pride Parade." 
       Thankfully, Keeton is using this to send a message. She is suing them. She obviously has a case. I can't even believe that this is necessary but I do think it will continue to worsen. we should pray for this young woman who is standing up for what is right and what she believes in when should could have easily caved to the intimidation and persecution.



      'Lose Christianity or face expulsion'
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      Is Mohammad Prophesied in the Bible? London Debate with Shabir Ally, 2008








      Is Mohammad Prophesied in the Bible? London Debate with Shabir Ally, 2008
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      If God Exists, Why is there Evil? - Norman Geisler




      Here is Norman Geisler answering the "problem of evil".



      If God Exists, Why is there Evil?
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      Adolf Hitler Was a Christian! Was Adolf Hitler a Christian?, part 1 and 2 | True Freethinker

      One of the canards the ignorant keep trotting out was that Adolf Hitler was a Christian. I hate that. It's no more true than trying to argue that Thomas Jefferson was a Catholic or a Baptist. Mariano has posted a two-part essay rebutting the fantasy that Hitler was a Christian.

      Adolf Hitler Was a Christian! Was Adolf Hitler a Christian?, part 1 | True Freethinker
      Adolf Hitler Was a Christian! Was Adolf Hitler a Christian?, part 2 | True Freethinker
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      Has Christianity Failed You? | True Freethinker

      I appreciate Mariano Grinbank for pointing out that Dr. Ravi Zacharias has published this book on an objection and question I hear most often from Atheists "Why has Christianity failed me?" or "Why does God make it so hard for me to believe in Him, if He exists?" I'm going to read this one!

      Has Christianity Failed You? | True Freethinker
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      Saturday, July 24, 2010

      Is Jesus Prophesied in the Old Testament? Parts 1 and 2 vs. Shabir Ally, London, 2008

      Here is a debate I've been waiting to watch. IT was just released although it took place about 2 years ago! Progress!!!! I see no reason for anyone to accuse Alpha and Omega Ministries for dragging their feet on posting it. There are lots of reasons why as Dr. White has already publically stated. Not only has he uploaded it to YouTube but it is available for free.








      Is Jesus Prophesied in the Old Testament? Parts 1 and 2 vs. Shabir Ally, London, 2008

      Apologetics 315: An Islam Primer: Five Parts MP3 Audio

      Here is a good summary of Islam in audio presentations. Five good ones posted by Brian Auten.

      Apologetics 315: An Islam Primer: Five Parts MP3 Audio
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      Friday, July 23, 2010

      Super Heroes vs. the Westboro Baptist Church - ComicsAlliance | Comics culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews


      As you probably know, Comic Con 2010 is happening in San Diego even as I write this. I'm bummed that I can't go, but at least I can revel in the coverage over the event. Turns out that there is a counter protest to Fred Phelps' demonstration. I wish someone would tell Phelps that this isn't the way to witness for God. There is nothing good that can come from his actions. It makes Christians look stupid and worse makes Jesus look bad. This isn't the way to engage the culture. Thing about comic book/movie fans is that we are not docile enough to be insulted without retaliation or rebuttal. Some showed up in costume and their own signs mocking Phelps and his followers. I don't condone either side's methods but I blame those who call ourselves Christian sthe most. I mean do you really have to go out of your way to be that unloving and offensive?




      Super Heroes vs. the Westboro Baptist Church - ComicsAlliance | Comics culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews
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      Richard Dawkins and His Amen Chorus of Adherents | True Freethinker

      Mariano has posted a great article pointing out that for some reason people seem to really like Richard Dawkins no matter what silly and/or stupid argument he makes.

      Richard Dawkins and His Amen Chorus of Adherents | True Freethinker
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      YouTube - Tactics in refuting moral relativism

      Moral Relativism sickens me because of how silly it is. If people didn't actually think this way it would be funny. But I'll laugh anyway. Thanks, Mariano.




      YouTube - Tactics in refuting moral relativism
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      Thursday, July 22, 2010

      Apologetics 315: Why We Believe the Bible: MP3 Series by John Piper

      Brian Auten has posted a 5 part audio seminar by John Piper. The topic was answering the question "Why we believe the Bible?". Thanks, Brian.

      Apologetics 315: Why We Believe the Bible: MP3 Series by John Piper
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      On the historical Jesus, the Jesus myths, the Bible’s reliability, etc. — Peter Jennings’ “The Search for Jesus” | True Freethinker

      Peter Jennings informing viewers of World News...Image via Wikipedia
      I appreciate Mariano Grinbank pointing out that this video is available on YouTube. I remember Peter Jenning's special on Jesus' life back in 2000. I even watched it and was infuriated at just how many facts were wrong. At the time, and since, there have been many many good rebuttals. But I don't think that there can be too many. Especially since all those lies continue to resurface. I agree with Mariano this response is a good one.






      The Poison


      The antidote


      On the historical Jesus, the Jesus myths, the Bible’s reliability, etc. — Peter Jennings’ “The Search for Jesus” | True Freethinker
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      Truthbomb Apologetics: Are the Terms "Micro-Evolution" and "Macro-Evolution" a Creationist Fabrication?

      I really appreciate this article Chad posted on his blog. I am often encountering the objection that there is no distinction between micro and macro evolution aside from that made by ignorant creationists. This post is awesome in that Chad went and posted quotes from decades ago referring to the distinction. My favorite of the quotes he posted is by Richard Goldschmidt who said in 1940,


      “the facts of microevolution do not suffice for an understanding of macroevolution.”


      Truthbomb Apologetics: Are the Terms "Micro-Evolution" and "Macro-Evolution" a Creationist Fabrication?
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