Sunday, October 2, 2011

Debunking Christianity: Militant Atheist?

John Loftus posted the following image:


I think the point of image is to point out that Militant Christians and Muslims are violent while Atheists are not. Let's examine the term "militant".


mil·i·tant

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adjective
1. vigorously active and aggressive, especially in support of a cause: militant reformers.
2. engaged in warfare; fighting.       link
 
So does this make sense the way the word is being applied.  Let's grant that for a moment and ask the question "Is the picture of the 'militant atheist' the only picture that would suffice? Why not one of these?"


Now, let's ask about the so-called "Militant Christian"? Anyone who would pray for or take joy in the death of anyone can't be a consistent Christian. They ain't following God!

 21 “But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. 22 None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
 24 “But if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die.- Ezekiel 18:21-24

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7 comments:

  1. Now, let's ask about the so-called "Militant Christian"? Anyone who would pray for or take joy in the death of anyone can't be a consistent Christian.

    HAHAHAhAHAHA no true scotts man... still... amamzing. But aren't christians wicked and depraved? They just don't pray for or take joy in the death of anyone? But they are definitely wicked and depraved.

    Got it...

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  2. Exactly. We are wrong if we do that and need to repent of our wickedness. Also its "amazing" not
    "amamzing".

    God changes us so we grow beyond that. Some take longer than others.

    And thanks for reading my blog, Ryan, although you didn't respond to any of the posts further from last week.

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  3. You can't refer to 'No True Scotsman' fallacy in this context, because there are such things as undeniable Christian values.

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  4. God changes us so we grow beyond that. Some take longer than others.

    So you are saying then that a true christian could pray for or take joy in the death of others. OK.

    I haven't read your blog in a couple weeks, not sure which posts you are referring too. Don't rightly care either.

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  5. So you are saying then that a true christian could pray for or take joy in the death of others. OK.

    I said "consistent Christian". And No one has it completely right. It's a process. the point is that picture does not define what a christian is. None of the pictures do justice to the point that Loftus is failing to make.


    I haven't read your blog in a couple weeks, not sure which posts you are referring too. Don't rightly care either.

    The comment is from last week...not two weeks ago. Here let me help you http://mmcelhaney.blogspot.com/2011/09/associated-press-roll-over-einstein-law.html#comments. Ryan, you are just as wrong about physics as you are about what Christianity is. Obvious since you never were born-again. I'll keep paying for you that God saves you and blesses you even more than He already has. God does love you even despite your short comings. Just like God loves me despite mine.

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  6. Marcus Anyone who would pray for or take joy in the death of anyone can't be a consistent Christian.

    Marcus And No one has it completely right. It's a process.

    Marcus God changes us so we grow beyond that. Some take longer than others.

    Good stuff.

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  7. And where do you see the conflict between these three statements? I don't think you have any idea what a Christian is.

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