Interview with Robert Price and John Loftus

I found six videos on YouTube in which Robert M. Price and John W. Loftus are interviewed. It was very interesting. I like looking at people's testimonies. How did they get to the point of thinking the way they do? They are apostates. People who claim to have been believers and now disavow Christianity. Why? What made them change their minds? These interviews begin to answer these questions. I have to say that neither of these men are unlikeable. It's nice to see Loftus in a relaxed public appearance in which he is not trying to win an argument.

According to Loftus, he lost his faith because he could not reconcile the Genesis account with what he understood from science. As far as Price, he just seemed to say that he looked at the evidence and was no longer persuaded that they were true.

I find that I disagree. Not because I'm a Christian but because I know that you can come to many different conclusions based on what you expect to find. I'd like to see if Loftus ever talked to Hugh Ross or Jay Richards. Did he ever discuss it with William Lane Craig? I don't know. But there seems to be an arrogance that says "I don't understand it therefore it must be wrong."

As for Price. The man is likable. And I admire the fact that he is willing to say publicly that he knows that the majority of his peers disagree with him but sticks to his conclusions. I disagree with him, but at least he is consistent with himself.

Apologetics 315: Phil Fernandes vs. Robert Price Debate MP3 Audio - Is Jesus the Savior?

Here is a great debate from Apologetics 315. I think that this gave me more respect for Phil Fernandez. It took guts to go into such hostile territory: The Infidel Guy. The host was really biased towards Robert Price. Fernandez did great - clear and concise. Price does not believer the Bible is factually true. His arguments and Richard Carrier are similar. Price comes out nicely and he did not seem like horrible person. I found the whole thing very interesting. At the outset it seems like one who would deny Jesus' existence was crackpot, but Price is not easily dismissed. Price is wrong, but we can't just dismiss him. He twists scriptures and assumes that they can't be trusted.

Apologetics 315: Phil Fernandes vs. Robert Price Debate MP3 Audio - Is Jesus the Savior?

YouTube - Bart Ehrman VS Atheist The Infidel Guy

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Before I started writing this blog, I heard a clip of an interview of Bart Ehrman on the Infidel Guy podcast. Dr. White played it and responded to it because he thought it really shows Bart Erhman's thought processes and beliefs when he was faced with a person who is even more radical and atheistic than himself. Re call that Ehrman does not consider himself an atheist. He identifies himself as an agnostic - saying that there is not enough evidence to establish or deny that God exists. the interview becomes a debate over whether or not Jesus existed. Infidel Guy is shocked that although Ehrman does not believe the Bible is the word of God, he does recognize that there is enough historical evidence to say that Jesus did exist as a fact of history. This is awesome. Here we have a non-christian respected scholar that teaches that Jesus was a real person and that all "serious historians" agree and that we can say something about historical truth. Robert M Price's names was brandished as someone who is a scholar but does not believe in the existence of Jesus and Ehrman all but laughed at his work. Who knew that for all the different things I disagree with Bart Ehrman that there is somethings we do agree on.

I just found out that Dr. James White will be debating Robert M. Price in early May. Boy, is this one going to be good! You can listen to Dr. White interacting with the above clips at the following links:

Patrick Madrid, Bart Ehrman, and the Infidel Guy on the DL...oh My!
The 33,000 Protestant Denominations Lie Again, Plus Ehrman with the Infidel Guy