Here is a debate posted on Apologetics 315 between Richard Carrier and William Lane Craig. They are debating about if Jesus'resurrection is true. Here is the Video.
This was a good debate. To be honest Richard Carrier is far more a formidable debater than I thought. I disagree with Dr. Craig that you can have this debate without questioning the veracity of the Bible. Carrier was perfectly in his rights to bring up if the Bible is true or not. I think Carrier is wrong that the gospels are fictitious symbolism. He rejects the idea that the reason why there are so many parallels is because God is painting a picture. Jesus is described as the sacrificial lamb that takes away the sin of the world. If you notice that every part of Jesus' life recorded for us mirrors the Old Testament as to what happens for Yom Kappur (Day of Atonement) and Passover. Why? God told Israel to keep those practices so that we can see Jesus fulfill them. Including there being a scape goat counterpart to Jesus in Barabbas, the murderer that was released instead of Jesus.
I have problems with Carrier equating the accounts by the apostles of Jesus' Resurrection with visions and hallucination. It's a proven scientific fact that two people can't have the same vision. In 1st Corinthians 15, Paul say that 500 people saw Jesus at once! And Paul had no reason to hallucinate Jesus. He was killing Christians! Before He saw Jesus for himself, Paul did not believe Jesus resurrected from the Dead. Carrier is wrong. I did like many of Craig's rebuttals especially about the testimony of women during the first century. Carrier tries to push metaphor and symbolism too far. He also asserted that some Old Testament prophecies were not fullfilled so people reinterpreted them. He offers no proof.
Richard Carrier vs William Lane Craig Debate MP3 Audio - Apologetics 315
As Craig pointed out, John 4:39 reinforces his claim that the testimony of women was not considered credible (One woman even thought the body had been moved (!), until she was corrected by a man)
ReplyDeleteIf you were referring to Mary Magdalene, she was corrected by Jesus himself
ReplyDeleteNo wonder a woman's testimony was not considered credible when they would leap to such illogical conclusions as that the body had been moved.
ReplyDeleteLuckily, some men were there to inspect the tomb and see that it was empty.
Huh? Mary Magdalene knew that Jesus was resurrected because she saw him and talked to him in the garden. What ware you talking about?
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