Sunday, May 8, 2011

Madeleine on Unbelievable? | MandM

A scant few weeks ago Dr Paul Copan appeared on the UK radio program Unbelievable? to discuss his book Is God A Moral Monster? Paul Copan's view is that people have been misunderstanding several passages in the Bible that appears that God commanded His people to perpetuate genocide on the people of Canaan.  He argues that, like many accounts of the period, instead of truly meaning that everything was killed - men, women, children, and live-stock - the Bible is just saying that the Israelites' enemies lost really, really badly and not that they killed everyone - even civilians. I'm personally not completely sold on this viewpoint but I find it interesting.  In weeks after a program, Unbelievable?'s host Justin Brieberly, reads e-mails and correspondence on earlier programs. In the episode just a couple of weeks after Paul Copan appeared, he read an e-mail from Madeleine Flannagan who, along with her husband Dr. Matthew Flannagan, agree with Dr Copan's view. In the following link to their blog, the Flannagans posted the text of what was read on the air. I'm still not sure if I'm convinced I mean why not just go with what the text says and understand that God had good enough moral reason and authority to command what God do/does and do/allow what God does?  If we disagree - we are wrong.  Be-that-as-it-may, I found Madeliene Flannagan's expressions well-worth reading and she summed up the position in a very compact way.

Madeleine on Unbelievable? | MandM
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Saturday, May 7, 2011

Sunday Quote: Thomas Jefferson on Design - Apologetics 315

Portrait of Thomas Jefferson by Rembrandt Peal...Image via WikipediaA few weeks ago, Brian Auten posted the following quote from Thomas Jefferson.
"I hold (without appeal to revelation) that when we take a view of the Universe, in its parts general or particular, it is impossible for the human mind not to perceive and feel a conviction of design, consummate skill, and indefinite power in every atom of its composition....So irresistible are these evidences of an intelligent and powerful Agent that, of the infinite numbers of men who have existed thro’ all the time, they have believed, in the proportion of a million at least to Unit, in the hypothesis of an eternal pre-existence of a creator, rather than in that of a self-existent Universe."

- Thomas Jefferson
I like the fact that  Brian posted this given how people usually point out how anti-Christian Thomas Jefferson was. As if the fact that he was not a believer in Christ and what the Bible says about Christ is reason to chuck Christianity under the bus. It turns out that Jefferson was no willing to go as far as today's atheists are willing to go.

Sunday Quote: Thomas Jefferson on Design - Apologetics 315
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Lara Logan Speaks Out About Assault In Egypt: 'They Raped Me With Their Hands' (VIDEO)

I'm still shocked that this happened to someone and it seems that nothing official will happen to them who did this to her. It almost seems like the attitude is that Lara Logan shouldn't have been there anyway because she was a woman and she should have known that it wasn't safe. I just don't understand that. This should never happen to anyone but it seems to happen all too often all over the world. IT is not just in Egypt. It's not just Muslims. It's just wrong. I think she was singled out because she is white and blond. This kind of thing has got to stop. I'll be praying for Lara Logan and her family.




Lara Logan Speaks Out About Assault In Egypt: 'They Raped Me With Their Hands' (VIDEO)

Lara Logan breaks her silence on '60 Minutes': 'They raped me with their hands' | Show Tracker | Los Angeles Times
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Faithful Thinkers: Article: Review of "Love Wins"

Luke Nix called attention to a two-part review of Rob Bell's book Love Wins by Dr. Ben Witherington. I love Dr. Witherington's work and the way he puts things when he talks about the Bible and theology. He is truly a top-notch scholar and it is interesting to look at his opinion regarding Love Wins and the controversies it has stirred.

Do not Ask for whom the Bell tolls…… A Chapter by Chapter review of ‘Love Wins’ | The Bible and Culture

Faithful Thinkers: Article: Review of "Love Wins"- Part 2
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Fallacy Friday: Ad Populum (Appeals to Popularity) - Apologetics 315

Again Brian Auten and Matthew Flannagan have teamed up to release valuable material on logical fallacies. This week it is appealing to popularity. Follow the link to get the valuable insights!

Fallacy Friday: Ad Populum (Appeals to Popularity) - Apologetics 315
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Friday, May 6, 2011

Debunking Christianity: Did You Know? Odds on the Resurrection of Jesus Are 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1

I'm not really one to argue statistics  but it's amazing to me that John Loftus posts the following 

Debunking Christianity: Did You Know? Odds on the Resurrection of Jesus Are 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1

which in turn is linked to the following:

Odds on the Resurrection of Jesus: 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1


I tend to not argue from statistics because you can make it say whatever you want. Given the way you spin it you can make something seem likely or not so likely.  Deane Galbraith tries to debunk Dr Tim McGrew and Dr Lydia McGrew on a paper they did in which they argued that from a statistics point of view Jesus' Resurrection was very probable. He tries but in my opinion fails. For me the Resurrection isn't about probabilities. Either it happened or it did not. I believe it did. End of story. There is enough historical evidence and personal experience with the resurrected Jesus to insure that it makes sense to base your life around the fact of Jesus. I did also find an interview Dr. Lydia McGrew did regarding Philosophy, Apologetics, and this paper. The link to it follow.

Lydia on The Probability of Christianity

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Thinking God's Thoughts: The Viral Representative's Argument for Homosexual Marriage

Brennon posted comments on the following video from a speech by Minnesota Representative Steve Simon.




I agree with Brennon's comments. Dr. James White agrees with Brennon also.



Thinking God's Thoughts: The Viral Representative's Argument for Homosexual Marriage

Yesterday on the Dividing Line: Analysis of Minnesota Representative's Comments
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A Refutation of Fitzgerald's "Nailed": Part 1 - Historical Relativism and Presuppositions

Jamin Hubner has started a series on Fitzgerald's book Nailed: Ten Christian Myths that show Jesus never existed at all. I enjoy Hubner's blog essays and articles very much! This particular essay does a great job in beginning to defend the historicity of Jesus. Well worth reading the article.

A Refutation of Fitzgerald's "Nailed": Part 1 - Historical Relativism and Presuppositions
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Answering Muslims: President Obama's Alternative Bin Laden Speech



I'm glad Obama went with the version he went went with!!!! This one is funny however.


Answering Muslims: President Obama's Alternative Bin Laden Speech
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Infographic: Evolution of the Internet « : Crushable - Crushable gives you the celebrity news, style and scoop on the stuff you care about.

Infographic: Evolution of the Internet « : Crushable - Crushable gives you the celebrity news, style and scoop on the stuff you care about.

Answering Muslims: Six Suicidal Assumptions about Islam

David Wood has posted a summary of six mistaken assumptions people make about Islam. He writes:

The conclusions we reach reflect the assumptions we make. Start with false assumptions and you reach false conclusions. Start with suicidal assumptions and you reach suicidal conclusions. We don’t have to make these mistakes ourselves; our leaders are making them on our behalf. We and our children will suffer the consequences.

Islam has a foothold in our country. If you want to prevent that becoming a stranglehold by means of the “peace process” described in 5 above, you need to join the Resistance.


This one is a must-read!

Answering Muslims: Six Suicidal Assumptions about Islam
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The Kingdom of David and Archaeology | Dr. Claude Mariottini – Professor of Old Testament

Dr Mariottini has posted another great article regarding Biblical minimalism and competing opinions.

People who are not familiar with the maximalist/minimalist controversy should read Shtull-Trauring’s article. In addition, those who are not familiar with the archeological argument put forth by both groups to support their respective views will learn much from this article. It is a long article, but here is an opportunity for people to educate themselves about the issues that divide archeologists, biblical scholars, and even Christians.
Read the article to find out more.

The Kingdom of David and Archaeology | Dr. Claude Mariottini – Professor of Old Testament
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Thursday, May 5, 2011

President Bush Reacts to Osama Bin Laden's Death with Will Ferrell from Will Ferrell, Adam "Ghost Panther" McKay, dannyjelinek, Brian Lane, Chris Kelly, Zach Zdziebko, Colton Dunn, BoTown Sound, Shauna O'Toole, and FOD Team




President Bush Reacts to Osama Bin Laden's Death with Will Ferrell from Will Ferrell, Adam "Ghost Panther" McKay, dannyjelinek, Brian Lane, Chris Kelly, Zach Zdziebko, Colton Dunn, BoTown Sound, Shauna O'Toole, and FOD Team
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Bin Laden's Dead! Here's An Updated Guide To The 2012 Presidential Hopefuls from As Usual, Dan Abramson, and Nate Maggio

Bin Laden's Dead! Here's An Updated Guide To The 2012 Presidential Hopefuls from As Usual, Dan Abramson, and Nate Maggio
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The Death of Biblical Minimalism vs Harry McCall: Mosaic Authorship of the Pentateuch is Unfounded

What are the odds that on the same day Dr. Claude Mariottini would post an article on Biblical Minimalism as John Loftus would post a comment from a Harry McCall that attempts to prove that Moses did not write the Pentateuch? It is amazing. Mariottini's article was in my RSS  feed before Loftus' post. It's like getting the antidote before the poison shows up. 

Dr. Mariottini defined Biblical Minimalism as follows:

Biblical minimalists have a very low concept of the Bible.  Those who hold a minimalist view of the Bible believe that the Bible was written in the Persian period and that the facts contained in the Bible cannot be used to write an authoritative history of Biblical Israel.

Dr. Mariottini goes on to explain why scholarship is moving away from that view. Juxtaposed with McCall' statement it becomes obvious that  Mariottini's post addresses McCall's concerns in a general fashion. McCall is quoted as writing:

The belief that either Moses wrote the Pentateuch or that it predates the Deuteronomistic History (Deuteronomy – II Kings) is unfounded by the Biblical facts themselves:

(Yet it is clear that Jesus thought Moses gave Israel the Law: “Did not Moses give you the Law,…” John 7: 19). Thus, if the modern critical view of the Bible is correct, then Jesus himself is subject to error.)

Point A: Why do latter books of the Bible totally ignore early Mosaic Laws - such as when Elijah is commanded by God to eat what unclean ravens brought (1 Kings 17:6) - especially when the Law clearly forbids eating that which has been torn by beasts?

1. "You shall be holy men to Me, therefore you shall not eat any flesh torn to pieces in the field; you shall throw it to the dogs." Exodus 22: 31

2. "Also the fat of an animal which dies and the fat of an animal torn by beasts may be put to any other use, but you must certainly not eat it." Lev. 7: 24

3. "He shall not eat an animal which dies or is torn by beasts, becoming unclean by it; I am the LORD." Lev 22: 8)

Some more Biblcial proofs of the LATE creation of the “Mosaic Law” (Pentateuch) is listed below:

Point B: Why did Samuel hesitate to anoint a king over Israel (1 Samuel 8) when Samuel already had Deuteronomy 17: 15?

Point C: Why did Elijah build an altar to Yahweh away from the legitimate central sanctuary?

Point D: Why can Hezekiah quote no “Mosaic Law” for his reform, whereas Josiah does (2 Chronicles 31 to 2 Kings 23)?

Point E: Why does Deuteronomy permit Levites to come to the altar where as Leviticus does not? Link.

Again while, Mariottini does not address points A-E, he does talk about why we should think of the Pentateuch as authoritative regarding the Biblical history of Biblical Israel - which McCall denies. This discussion does not depend on whether or not you believe Moses wrote the Pentateuch in his own hand or if was passed from Moses by oral tradition. The bottom line is that Jesus in various places in the Old Testament testified that the Law came from Moses and many times appealed to it as binding and authoritative. This is a point worth contending on. I will be giving a more detailed response to McCall's 5 points because they deserve some added space and time to wrestle with. I would highly suggest that anyone interested in this issue should read Dr. Mariottini's article closely at the following link.

The Death of Biblical Minimalism | Dr. Claude Mariottini – Professor of Old Testament

You can read McCall's quote at the following link:

Debunking Christianity: Harry McCall: Mosaic Authorship of the Pentateuch is Unfounded



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First Look Inside at Martin Luther Graphic Novel – We are Ready to Take Your Orders Now | CyberBrethren-A Lutheran Blog

James Swan posted an article on a Graphic Novel based on the life of Martin Luther. I like such books. The thing I'm sadden about is that people look down on such things as being just for children and no real value as a viable medium for telling important stories. I'd like to read this very much and I like the promotional video.




Luther Goes to the Cartoon Network

First Look Inside at Martin Luther Graphic Novel – We are Ready to Take Your Orders Now | CyberBrethren-A Lutheran Blog
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Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Hidden Gems in Old Apologetics Literature by Tim McGrew - Apologetics 315

Dr Tim McGrew was recently interviewed by Dr Mike Licona on his work on studying the history of Apologetics. I loved the interview. Not only did we learn more about Dr. McGrew's amazing family but how important it is not to forget the work of previous apologists and scholars. It reminds me of how valuable the older works of scientist and engineers in their own work and not just what modern writers say what they discovered. For example, reading Einstien's papers on relativity or Enrico Fermi's book on thermodynamics is way cooler than just reading about them in a current textbook.

McGrew shows that some of the most famous and useful literature from previous centuries have been forgotten and makes me wonder if today's great works might be forgotten in 100 years.

Be sure to visit the Library of Historical Apologetics for more classical apologetic works.

Hidden Gems in Old Apologetics Literature by Tim McGrew - Apologetics 315
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YouTube - Theology Matters: May God Grant You an Interview

Here is a video Dr. James White posted before I started my blog. It is a response to Dr. Bart Ehrman's book God's Problem, in which Ehrman lays out how the existence of evil and suffering lead to him becoming an agnostic. It is a great response.




YouTube - Theology Matters: May God Grant You an Interview

YouTube - Theodicy, God and Suffering - A debate between Dinesh D'Souza and Bart Ehrman




YouTube - Theodicy, God and Suffering - A debate between Dinesh D'Souza and Bart Ehrman
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Tuesday, May 3, 2011

President and Mrs Obama on Oprah Winfrey Show May 2 2011






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FacePalm of the Day #76 - Debunking Christianity: The Christian Faith Makes a Person Stupid

John Lofus posted the following quote and then commented on it.
How many people have claimed to have finally debunked God? Way too many, This has been going on for centuries and someone is always popping up claiming to “Finally debunk God,

If God wasn’t real then why did it take over 2000 years to “Finally Debunk” Christianity? I call this “The Finally Debunk Crew”


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The reason dimwit, is because Christianity is like a chameleon, ever changing in response to its culture, our criticisms, and science. The Christianities of yesteryear have been debunked. That's why you hold to the one you do today. And your type of Christianity will be replaced slowly into the future as well.
I wonder if a person makes a poor argument, does that equate to that person being "dimwit"? If that is the case, then what does that say about Loftus himself whom routinely makes poor arguments. This is a case in point: who says that Biblical Christianity has been "debunked at any time? And what exactly has been proven wrong? How does Loftus prove this "evolution" of theology? He can't. No one can. If he's referring to the Gnostics and other fringe groups it's not a good analogy. They can't be substantiated in the Bible.  If they can't be substantiated in the Bible refuting them is not just easy but also does not refute Christianity.

Debunking Christianity: The Christian Faith Makes a Person Stupid
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Biblical Studies and Technological Tools: MySword Bible App for Android

I'm always looking for good Bible Apps for Android and this article has a lot of good background on the MySword Bible App.

Biblical Studies and Technological Tools: MySword Bible App for Android
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PSN, Bin Laden, and the Impact of One - Sessler's Soapbox - G4tv.com

Adam Sessler at TGS 07Image via WikipediaI really like Adam Sessler. I really enjoy his comments on culture, movies, and video games. Given the many events of the past week I couldn't pass up the chance to hear his opinion.




PSN, Bin Laden, and the Impact of One - Sessler's Soapbox - G4tv.com
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Monday, May 2, 2011

Hector Avalos: No Judgment Day on May 21

John Loftus has posted a link to the following article on his blog by Dr. Hector Avalos regarding Harold Camping's prophesied date for Jesus' Second Coming and the Rapture of the church as May 21, 2011. Loftus and Dr. Avalos are atheists but in this case they agree with scripture that Harold Camping is a false prophet. Jesus said

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. - Matt 24:36-44



This isn't the first time Camping has made false prophesies of the end of the world. He said the same thing about 1994 and 2000. We just need to heed what Jesus said.


Hector Avalos: No Judgment Day on May 21

Camping has been refuted in public. Look at this.
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THE APOLOGETIC FRONT: Daniel 4:34-35 and the Sovereignty of God

Mike Felker has posted a really good article on Daniel 4:34-35 and what it says about Sovereignty of God.

“But at the end of that period, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven and my reason returned to me, and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever; For His dominion is an everlasting dominion, And His kingdom endures from generation to generation.
“All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, But He does according to His will in the host of heaven And among the inhabitants of earth; And no one can ward off His hand Or say to Him, ‘What have You done?’” (Daniel 4:34–35)
I completely agree with Mike because if you believe the rest of scripture, what other conclusion is possible. God certainly showed Nebuchadnezzar who was in charge. Personally, I'd rather learn from his experience instead of experiencing that lesson first hand.

THE APOLOGETIC FRONT: Daniel 4:34-35 and the Sovereignty of God
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Al-Qaida's Head Osama Bin Laden Dead

Who say President Obama has failed to deliver all of his campaign promises? I seem to remember he promised his administration promising get Osama Bin Laden - either dead or alive. May 1, 2011 it's been announced that the US military has done exactly that - killing Bin Laden with very few casualties. Definitely a win for the Presidential administration. It was Obama's call, given the information he had, whether or not take the risk of sending elite troops to kill Bin Laden. Here is Obama's speech







This is not just about avenging the thousands who died September 11, 2001. Make no mistake, given another chance Bin Laden would have attacked the United States again and we had to get him so that no one else thinks they can attack the United States with impunity. Also given the past week in American politics, this is even sweeter. Donald Trump and the tea baggers and some Republicans have been criticizing and calling Obama's abilities and character into question - not just his policies. They forced the President of the United States to provide a Birth certificate!? And then insinuated that he only got the opportunities he's had because of affirmative action and didn't deserve them. They went as far as demanding he provide this transcripts and grades! Why? Because he is African American and they are doing all they can to discredit him. Given all of this, I was really impressed with Obama's speech Saturday night at the White House Correspondence Dinner. I watched the look on his face. It was a look of victory and triumph and I though that it was because he was finally able to respond to those morons and put them in their place. He pawned Trump in public and he told the truth!! It was priceless. I see now it was even better than that. Obama already knew at that point that Osama Bin Laden was dead and they had the body (If I understand the timeline correctly) or he already knew the operation was on its way. He just sat back and let them ignorantly say what ever they wanted and Sunday night came the whammy. It could not be any better.

I knew Obama was a good politician, but I had no idea how much of a poker face he has. I would had been sprung this on Trump a lot sooner. Some people have said that Obama is the worse President ever. I disagree. I mean you have to give the man some props for this one. He certainly isn't the worse and I don't agree with everything he does or says, but I wouldn't agree completely with any President. C'mon, lets try to be fair. A lot of Americans are celebrating...and I'm just waiting to see what the Republicans are going to say about this. I know it's early but some candidates for memes are already making it around the internet!

Here are two of my favorites:


YouTube - Al-Qaida Head Bin Laden Dead

Obama's Swagger Reminds Everyone That He Is Owning This Osama Moment

In related news, a couple of people unknowingly live-blogged the operation in Pakistan via Twitter!!!!
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