Sunday, September 1, 2013

BibViz Project - Bible Contradictions, Misogyny, Violence, Inaccuracies - Intro Post

This is an introductory post to a new series of articles I'm going to be publishing that will address 466 proposed contradictions in the Bible that are visualized in an interactive website - the BibViz Project. It is based on a visualization of Bible contradictions by Chris Harrison, which I have blogged about before. The difference here is that instead of just drawing lines, each line is a hyperlink to the the Skeptic's Annotated Bible. I will be using the following list as my guide. These are not contradictions and can easily be reconciled. Here is a quote from Bibviz.

Many of the contradictions above stem from a literal interpretation of the stories in the Bible. Some verses may be mistranslations, allegories, exaggerations, etc and can be interpreted in the context of the society in which they were written, rewritten, or otherwise modified over time. Considering that 46% of Americans believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis (and probably other portions of the Bible) and the fact that many sects disagree on which parts to take literally, it seems reasonable to include these contradictions based on literal interpretation.

The creators of the site seem to think that just because people cannot agree on what to take literally and what not  to take literally is itself a contradiction against the Bible. Mistaken interpretation does not mean a contradiction if a passage was not meant to be taken literally. The KJV is 500 years old and not based on the best manuscripts and evidence that we now have access too, so to include such mistranslations" and misunderstanding due to ignorance of culture, language,  and the audience to which the texts are written is extremely dishonest.

1 How many men did the chief of David's captains kill? 2 Was Abraham justified by faith or works? 3 How many sons did Abraham have?
4 Was Abiathar the father or the son of Ahimelech? 5 Who was Abijam's mother? 6 How were Abijam and Asa related? 7 How long was the ark of the covenant at Abinadab's house?
8 How old was Abram when Ishmael was born? 9 How many sons did Absalom have? How many sons did Absalom have? 10 When did Absalom rebel against David? 11 The two contradictory creation accounts.
12 Who Was Achan's father? 13 How many of Adin's offspring returned from Babylon? 14 How many of Adonikam's offspring returned from Babylon? 15 How should adulterers be punished?
16 Is it wrong to have sex outside of marriage? 17 Was Haman an Agagite? 18 Was Ahaz buried with his fathers? 19 When did Ahaziah begin to reign?
20 How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign? 21 Did the city of Ai exist after Joshua destroyed it? 22 What tribe was Aijalon from? 23 Does God want some to go to hell?
24 Did Jesus tell his disciples everything? 25 Was David alone when asking for the holy bread at Nob? 26 Did Saul and Samuel kill all the Amalekites? 27 Who was Amasa's father?
28 How should the Ammonites be treated? 29 Who was Anah? 30 Who drove the Anakim from Hebron? 31 From what were the animals created?
32 Where did Jesus first appear to the eleven disciples after the resurrection? 33 How many of Arah's offspring returned from Babylon? 34 What was in the Ark of the Covenant? 35 Was Asa perfect?
36 Did Asa remove the high places? 37 How many of Asaph's offspring returned from Babylon? 38 When did Jesus ascend into heaven? 39 Did Peter ask Jesus where he was going?
40 On what did Jesus ride into Jerusalem? 41 Is the day of the Lord at hand? 42 How many of Azgad's offspring returned from Babylon? 43 When did Baasha die?
44 How many languages were there before the Tower of Babel was built? 45 How long was the Babylonian Captivity? 46 How many of Bani's offspring returned from Babylon? 47 In whose name is baptism to be performed?
48 Did Jesus baptize anyone? 49 Did Jesus tell his apostles to go barefoot and without a staff? 50 Who was to blame for original sin? 51 Who was Bashemath's father?
52 What was the volume of the molten sea in Solomon's temple? 53 How many of Bebai's offspring returned from Babylon? 54 When did Saul become David's enemy? 55 Who named Beersheba?
56 Where did Joseph and Mary live before the birth of Jesus? 57 Should we believe everything? 58 How many believers were there at the time of the ascension? 59 How old was Benjamin when his clan migrated to Egypt?
60 Who were the sons of Benjamin? 61 Were Naaman and Ard the sons or the grandsons of Benjamin? 62 Who asked for the best seats in heaven? 63 When did Jacob rename Luz to Bethel?
64 How many of Bethlehem and Netophah's offspring returned from Babylon? 65 Where did Jesus cure the blind man? 66 How many of Bezai's offspring returned from Babylon? 67 How many of Bigvai's offspring returned from Babylon?
68 Who is the most blessed woman? 69 Who makes people deaf and blind? 70 How many blind men were healed near Jericho? 71 Does the blood of animal sacrifices take away sin?
72 Should we bear each other's burdens? 73 Who buried Jesus? 74 On what day did the temple burn? 75 Did God command the Israelites to make him burnt offerings?
76 Who appeared to Moses in the burning bush? 77 What became of Cain? 78 Was Jesus taken to Caiaphas or Annas first? 79 Will those who call on the Lord be delivered?
80 Can God do anything? 81 How long was the Egyptian Captivity? 82 Does God prefer castrated men? 83 Is casting out devils a sign of a true Christian?
84 Did God kill all the Egyptian cattle in the sixth plague? 85 Is it OK to take a census?? 86 Did the Centurion ask Jesus directly to help his slave? 87 What did the Centurion call Jesus when he died?
88 How high was the chapiter? 89 How many men did David kill? 90 Is childbearing sinful? 91 Is it a a good thing to be childish?
92 How did Jesus respond when questioned by the high priest? 93 Is circumcision required? 94 To whom were the cities of Exhtaol and Zoreah given? 95 Did the cock crow before or after Peter's denial?
96 What color was Jesus' robe? 97 Did Jesus forewarn the apostles of his death and resurrection? 98 Is God the author of confusion? 99 Is it OK to covet?
100 Did Jesus say before the cock crow or before the cock crows twice? 101 Did Jesus ask God to save him from crucifixion? 102 Is it OK to curse people? 103 Will God curse the earth?
104 Are those who obey the law cursed? 105 When did the Temple curtain rip? 106 Who carried Jesus' cross? 107 When was the city of Dan named?
108 Generations from David to the Babylonian Captivity 109 How did David kill Goliath? 110 The sons of David born in Hebron 111 Did David sin?
112 Which sons of David were born in Jerusalem? 113 From which of David's sons was Jesus descended? 114 When did the women (or woman) arrive at the sepulchre? 115 Is death final?
116 How many of Delaiah, Tobiah, and Nekoda's offspring returned from Babylon? 117 To whom did Peter deny knowing Jesus? 118 Who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah? 119 Can the devil capture us at will?
120 Is the devil tied up or free to roam? 121 Who can cast out devils in the name of Jesus? 122 Where did the devils ask not to go? 123 Does God desire animal sacrifices?
124 Must everyone die? 125 Should believers discuss their faith with non-believers? 126 Is divorce ever permissible? 127 Does anyone ever do anything good?
128 Who put the robe on Jesus? 129 Did Jesus drink on the cross? 130 When did the earth dry after the flood? 131 Does God dwell in darkness or in light?
132 Will the earth last forever? 133 What kind of animals may we eat? 134 How should the Edomites be treated? 135 May a eunuch enter into the congregation of the Lord?
136 Did Lot's daughters think God had killed every man except Lot? 137 Does the gospel of Luke contain everything that Jesus did? 138 Did Jesus, Mary, and Joseph go to Egypt or Nazareth? 139 How many disciples did Jesus appear to in his first post resurrection appearance?
140 Did the eleven disciples believe the two men? 141 Whom did Elhanan kill? 142 Was John the Baptist Elijah? 143 When will the end of the world come?
144 How should we treat our enemies? 145 Has anyone ever ascended into heaven? 146 Did Enoch die? 147 Was Enoch the sixth or the seventh from Adam?
148 Will Ephraim return to Egypt? 149 When was Eve created? 150 Is everyone descended from Adam and Eve? 151 Is God the creator of evil?
152 Do evildoers prosper? 153 Did Moses see God face to face? 154 Is Salvation by faith alone? 155 Were the men with Paul knocked to the ground?
156 Is it possible to fall from grace? 157 How many years of famine? 158 Is it OK to call your father (or anyone else) father? 159 Did Moses fear the king?
160 Should we look for signs in the heavens? 161 Should we fear God? 162 Who bought the potter's field? 163 When did the cursed fig tree die?
164 When did Jesus curse the fig tree? 165 Was Jesus the first to rise from the dead? 166 To whom did Jesus make his first post-resurrection appearance? 167 How long was the ark afloat?
168 How long did the flood last? 169 Did everyone (except for Noah and his family) die in the flood? 170 Will the righteous flourish? 171 Which flying creeping things may we eat?
172 Is it OK to call someone a fool? 173 Is it good to be foolish? 174 Who forces non-believers to disbelieve? 175 How many Philistine foreskins did David buy his first wife with?
176 Does God forgive sins? 177 How many generations from Jesus to Abraham? 178 Can God be found? 179 From what were the fowls created?
180 Do humans have free will? 181 Were the disciples frightened or gladdened when they saw Jesus? 182 Does God ever get furious? 183 Who gave the law to Moses?
184 Did God give Gehazi leprosy? 185 Genealogy of Jesus 186 Genealogy of Jesus 187 When was the Holy Ghost given?
188 Does God lie? 189 Does God love everyone? 190 Does God know what is in everyone's heart? 191 How many gods are there?
192 Are we all God's children? 193 Does God work on the Sabbath? 194 How much gold, silver, and clothing did the people give? 195 Who killed Goliath?
196 Is anyone good? 197 Who was the greatest: Jesus, Solomon, or John the Baptist? 198 Is it OK for men to have long hair? 199 Who was Noah's youngest son?
200 Is it good to be happy? 201 Was Mary Magdalen happy or sad when she saw the risen Jesus? 202 Who hardened the Pharaoh's heart? 203 Should we follow our own hearts?
204 When was heaven created? 205 Does Hell exist? 206 Does God help in times of need? 207 Who was Heman's father?
208 Did Herod think Jesus was John the Baptist? 209 Where did Joseph's brothers find the hidden money? 210 How many talents of gold did Hiram send Solomon? 211 Is only God holy?
212 Who sent the Holy Ghost? 213 How should homosexuals be treated? 214 Where did Aaron die? 215 How many horsemen did David take?
216 When (at what time of day) was Jesus crucified? 217 Does God approve of human sacrifice? 218 Were humans created before or after the other animals? 219 If a husband believes, is his wife saved also?
220 Which tribe was Hyram from? 221 Was Zechariah Iddo's son or grandson? 222 Is it OK to make images? 223 Which came first: the calling of Peter and Andrew or the imprisonment of John the Baptist?
224 Is incest forbidden? 225 Are we punished for the sins of others? 226 Did Saul inquire of the Lord? 227 Were the men or angels inside or outside the tomb when the women arrived?
228 Will God destroy those that intermarry? 229 Can God stop iron chariots? 230 How old was Ishmael when he was abandoned by Abraham? 231 When was King Jabin killed?
232 Who bought the sepulcher in Shechem from the sons of Hamor? 233 Where was Jacob buried? 234 How many were in Jacob's family when they came into Egypt? 235 Was Jairus' daughter alive when Jesus was approached?
236 Did Jeconiah have any sons? 237 Was Jeconiah the son or grandson of Josiah? 238 When did Jehoash become king of Israel? 239 How long did Jehoash reign?
240 How old was Jehoachin when he began to reign? 241 Who succeeded Jehoiakim as king? 242 Did Jehoiakim die in Babylon or near Jerusalem? 243 Did Jehoshaphat remove the high places?
244 Did Abraham know God's name? 245 Was Jehu the son or grandson of Nimshi? 246 When was the blind man (or men) healed? 247 Did Paul go to Jerusalem from Damascus immediately after his conversion?
248 How many sons did Jesse have? 249 When was Jesus born? 250 Was Joseph the father of Jesus? 251 Did Jesus know everything?
252 Did Jesus bear witness of himself? 253 What will happen to Jews when they die? 254 Will there be many Jews? 255 What was Jesus H. Christ's real name?
256 Did God commend or condemn Jehu for the killings at Jezreel? 257 Where was Joash buried? 258 Who brought evil on Job? 259 Who cast Jonah into the sea?
260 Who was Jesus' paternal grandfather? 261 Where did Josiah die? 262 How did King Josiah die? 263 How long did Jotham reign?
264 How did Judas die? 265 Did Judas identify Jesus with a kiss? 266 To judge or not to judge. 267 Does Jesus judge people?
268 Has there ever been a just person? 269 Is anyone justified? 270 Was Keturah Abraham's wife or concubine? 271 To kill or not to kill.
272 Why did God reject Saul as king? 273 Who was the father of Kish? 274 Does God know and see everything? 275 Who was Korah's father?
276 Did God bury alive all of Korah's children? 277 Who was Laban's father? 278 What were the last words of Jesus? 279 Should we obey human or divine law?
280 Is it wrong to lie? 281 What is the human lifespan? 282 How many of Lod, Hadid, and Ono's offspring returned from Babylon? 283 Has the sun ever stood still in the sky for 24 hours?
284 Who is the Lord of this world? 285 Was Lot righteous? 286 Should we love or hate others? 287 Was Mahli the son of Levi?
288 Will everyone see the majesty of God? 289 Was David a man of war before he fought Goliath? 290 Did Elisha receive Elijah's mantle before or after Elijah is taken up into heaven? 291 Is marriage a good thing?
292 Should Christians be concerned with material things? 293 Is it OK to eat meat sacrificed to other gods? 294 Was Moses meek? 295 Is God merciful?
296 How many children did Michal have? 297 Did the Israelites kill every male in Midian? 298 How many did God kill for "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab"? 299 How should the Moabites be treated?
300 Did any Moabite enter the congregation of the Lord? 301 Is money good or bad? 302 Was Moses in good mental and physical health at age 120? 303 Who was Moses' father-in-law?
304 Was Moses a good speaker? 305 Did Jesus preach his first sermon on a mountain or a plain? 306 What is God's name? 307 What's new?
308 What is the correct recipe for the new moon sacrifice? 309 If God likes you, will everyone else like you too? 310 When did Noah enter the ark? 311 How should nonbelievers be treated?
312 Is it OK to take oaths? 313 Are those who believe that Jesus is the Christ "of God"? 314 How many officers did Solomon have? 315 How old was Abraham when he left Haran?
316 Was the tomb opened or closed when the women arrived? 317 Are the laws of the Old Testament still binding? 318 How many overseers did Solomon have? 319 Who owns the earth?
320 How many of Pahathmoab, Jeshua, and Joab's offspring returned from Babylon? 321 How should parents be treated? 322 How many days is unleavened bread to be eaten during the passover? 323 When was Jesus crucified?
324 Did Paul see Jesus on the road to Damascus? 325 Did Paul visit all of the disciples when he went to Jerusalem after his conversion? 326 Is God warlike or peaceful? 327 Is the law of God perfect?
328 Is it OK to use perfume? 329 Who wrote the Pentateuch? 330 How did Peter find out that Jesus was the Messiah? 331 Where did Peter and Andrew live?
332 Were the Pharisees baptized by John? 333 Can women be church leaders? 334 How high were the pillars? 335 Were plants created before or after humans?
336 Should we try to please others? 337 How many children of the porters returned from Babylon? 338 How many men were possessed with devils? 339 What did Jesus do after his baptism?
340 How much power did Jesus have? 341 Do Christians know how to pray? 342 Should you pray for everyone? 343 When David fled to Nob, what was the priest's name?
344 On what day of the month was Jehoiachin released from prison? 345 Should Christians pray in public? 346 Is every word of God pure? 347 Was Rahab saved by faith or works?
348 Who raised Jesus from the dead? 349 Was Jesus a ransom for many or a ransom for all? 350 Can God be found through reason alone? 351 Did Mary Magdalene recognize Jesus when he first appeared to her?
352 Should we rejoice when our enemies suffer? 353 Is it OK for a divorced woman to remarry? 354 Should we rend our clothes? 355 Does God repent?
356 Does God respect anyone? 357 Did both thieves revile Jesus? 358 Is wealth a sign of righteousness or of wickedness? 359 Has there ever been a righteous person?
360 Does righteousness come from following the Law? 361 Is it necessary to keep the Sabbath? 362 How should Sabbath-breakers be punished? 363 Who may offer sacrifices to God?
364 Who was the father of Salah? 365 Did the Samaritans receive Jesus? 366 Should the gospel be preached to everyone? 367 When was the last time that Samuel saw Saul?
368 Who was Samuel's firstborn son? 369 Did Sarah have faith that she would conceive? 370 When did Satan enter Judas? 371 How did Saul die?
372 Did all of Saul's family die with him? 373 When did Saul meet David? 374 When did "Is Saul among the prophets?" become a proverb? 375 Who were Saul's sons?
376 What must you do to be saved? 377 Were the Israelites to spare the trees in the countries they invaded? 378 Did Jesus have secret teachings? 379 Was Sisera murdered in his sleep?
380 Is all Scripture inspired by God? 381 Should we let others see our good works? 382 Can God be seen? 383 How many of Senaah's offspring returned from Babylon?
384 Should you serve God alone? 385 What does the earth set upon? 386 How should a man who has sex with a menstruating woman be punished? 387 Do bad things happen to good people?
388 Did Jesus perform many signs and wonders? 389 What did Judas do with the silver? 390 Do Christians sin? 391 Where did Moses receive the Ten Commandments?
392 How many singing men and women returned from Babylon? 393 Were the men or angels inside the tomb sitting or standing? 394 In Jesus' response to the rich young man, what was the six commandment on his list of "the commandments"? 395 What was Jonathan's first slaughter?
396 Does God sleep? 397 How many valiant men drew the sword in Israel and Judah as counted by Joab? 398 Who brought Joseph into Egypt? 399 Was Solomon David's second or fourth son by Bathsheba?
400 What was Solomon's payment to Hiram? 401 When did Solomon's reign begin? 402 Was Jesus the son of David? 403 How many sons does God have?
404 How many sons did Gideon have? 405 Who were the sons of Heman? 406 Was Jesus silent during his trial before Pilate? 407 How did Jesus cure the blind man?
408 Does God have a body? 409 How many stalls did Solomon have? 410 When were the stars made? 411 Is it wrong to steal?
412 Did Joshua remove the twelve stones from the Jordan River? 413 How should strangers be treated? 414 Were the Philistines subdued all the days of Samuel? 415 Why did God turn the sundial back ten degrees?
416 Is Jesus peaceful? 417 When did Jesus' temple tantrum occur? 418 Where did Jesus tell his disciples to go after his resurrection? 419 Did the women immediately tell the disciples?
420 Did Jesus say, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up"? 421 Can God be tempted? 422 Who tempted David to number Israel? 423 Has God ever tempted anyone?
424 How old was Terah when he died? 425 Is it OK to test (or tempt) God? 426 Can thieves go to heaven? 427 At his baptism, did God address Jesus directly?
428 How much did David pay for the threshing floor? 429 Should you speak in tongues? 430 Was it OK to touch the risen Jesus before his ascension? 431 When did the transfiguration occur?
432 May Adam eat from any tree? 433 What were the twelve (or thirteen) tribes of Israel? 434 How many of each clean animal did Noah take into the ark? 435 Is there an unforgivable sin?
436 Is it OK to marry (or stay married to) unbelievers? Is it OK to touch them or be friends with them? 437 Where did God kill Uzza? 438 What did the soldiers give Jesus to drink? 439 Did Jesus go to heaven after he died but before his ascension?
440 Did the men with Paul hear the voice? 441 Where did Moses get water from a rock? 442 How did Moses get water out of the rock? 443 Does God ever tire?
444 Was Jonah swallowed by a fish or a whale? 445 Who (or what) is the ransom for the righteous? 446 Who created heaven and earth? 447 Who made the ark of the covenant?
448 Who wrote the (second set of) ten commandments? 449 Does God destroy both the righteous and the wicked? 450 Do the wicked live long? 451 Is God's will always done in heaven?
452 Is wisdom a good thing? 453 Does wisdom make people happy? 454 How many men were in the king's presence? 455 Who is for or against Jesus?
456 Who did the women see at the tomb? 457 How many women came to the sepulchre? 458 Where did the women watching the crucifixion stand? 459 Can only God work wonders?
460 How are people judged by God? 461 How many of Zattu's offspring returned from Babylon? 462 Who was Zechariah's father? 463 Did Zedekiah's eyes behold the king of Babylon?
464 Who was Zerubbabel's father? 465 Where does God dwell? 466 Did God call Abraham before or after he moved to Haran?



BibViz Project - Bible Contradictions, Misogyny, Violence, Inaccuracies

Saturday, August 31, 2013

The Double Standard

I found  the following comic on Tumblr and I think it shows the fundamental double standard.  I don't know if the author of the comic strip is for or against same-sex marriage but it does point out an obvious contradiction. If it does not matter who you love but only standing up for that love, then what do you tell the pedophile who wants to marry a child or the person who wants to marry a dog or a cat or a horse or all of the above? Most people agree that we need to limit this, but on what grounds? And how far? Personally, I think the way God has limited this is the only logical and fair answer.




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Friday, August 23, 2013

FacePalm of the Day - Debunking Christianity: Rhetorical Bullshit: The John Loftus Trinity Argument

It is truly shocking how Atheists and Agnostics have the standard that because the Trinity does not make sense to them that it can't be true, yet recognize that so many other things can be not understood by them and yet still be true. To make matters worse, when they discuss the trinity they never correctly describe it. They mess it up and show they don't understand the Trinity at all.


Just like Loftus, this man can't tell a difference between "being" and "person". This is a category error. "Being" and "person" are not the same thing at all. Christians do not believe that God is three person in one person or three beings in one being. God is three persons in one being. If you make the correct distinction between "being" and "person" there is no need for confusion. A human being is one person. Who say that God, who is infinite and so different from us on any measurable level, why would we think God is limited just as us.

Another example of where the video fails is the "Logos" discussion. The mistake is thinking that Jesus had a beginning. He didn't. The Logos is eternal.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. - John 1:1-3

Well at least the man recognized that Jesus is the Logos.

Debunking Christianity: Rhetorical Bullshit: The John Loftus Trinity Argument

Why Trust the Gospels? Video by Peter J. Williams - Apologetics 315




Why Trust the Gospels? Video by Peter J. Williams - Apologetics 315

Sunday, August 18, 2013

Where did God come from S M Lockridge's Unforgettable answer - YouTube




Where did God come from S M Lockridge's Unforgettable answer..wmv - YouTube

Faceplant of the Day - Debunking Christianity: Why Do Christians Speak for God?

Again JM Green has attempted to come up with an argument against Christianity but only manages to show how ignorant a human mind is without God

The god of the Bible sure has a lot of self-appointed press agents.

In the Old Testament, Moses and the prophets spent a lot of time talking about what their god hated and loved. They detailed what behavior he expected, the loyalty and sacrifices that he demanded, and the ways he would retaliate if not obeyed. They revealed who god wanted killed, and under what circumstances. Whenever God was upset, feeling betrayed, or benevolent, his spokesmen let be known, as if they were divine mood rings.

Notice the unstated presupposition: That Moses and the Prophets offer varying and different messages throughout the Old Testament In other words that the message changed like people's moods change. He offers no proof of this or example where one Prophet contradicted another. Why? Because there is no such example.

In the New Testament, Jesus claimed to speak for God, as did the self-declared, late-to-the-party Apostle Paul. Peter and other apostles also vied for acceptance as their god’s mouthpiece, and the competition sometimes got quite fierce.

Again more assertion and no evidence. Given that Jesus is God, saying that he knows what God thinks and wants would make sense. As for Paul and Peter and the New Testament apostles and writers, we have the same case as for Moses and the Old Testament prophets: the consistency of their message speaks volumes as evidence for single source.

Today, nothing has really changed, except that with the various platforms of mass communication, there are ever so many more people who are eager to tell us the demands of their invisible deity. Lately, their god seems very obsessed with gays, although to be fair, Rev. Fred Phelps has been telling us for quite a long time that “God hates fags.”

"Invisible deity" does not equal "non-existent deity". The Bible tells us what God thinks about a great many of human behavior and activities. Fred Phelps does not epitomize the Biblical message at all and citing him as an example of someone who thinks they speak for God but doesn't fits this article really nicely but notice the vast number of Bible-believing Christians who realize that their opinions and concepts do not line up with the Bible and changes themselves to conform to God's viewpoint. They are out there too right along with the liars and hypocrites

The talking heads of the religious right churn out their doomsday pronouncements like clockwork:

[Go to the original post linked to the end to see the videos cited for "evidence"] For the sake of argument, let's agree that the article's author is correct about the people in the video. What difference does it make? None. Them being wrong does not invalidate the Bible nor God's existence.

For Catholics, the Pope is God’s voice on earth. For Protestants, at the local church level you have pastors telling people what the Man Upstairs expects of them. If you are in a Pentecostal church, it is even worse because through “tongues and interpretation” and “prophecies”, church members will issue spontaneous communications from heaven. This provides an open forum for every narcissistic attention-seeker to run wild. If only I had a dollar for every bogus ‘word from the Lord’ which I encountered over the years…

Anyone who only takes the word of another human being about what God expects of them deserves what they get - nothing. You can know God for yourself and you can check what they say against scripture. That is how you know if it is bogus or not. 

The point I would like to make is: In all of these instances, the only thing we actually have is humans telling us what their god thinks, feels, and wants. Never once do we have a miraculous voice from the sky in which God speaks for himself.

Oh finally there is a point...such as it is. No proof is offered showing us that Biblical revelation is not from God and the assumption being made that the only valuable evidence would be a "miraculous voice from the sky". Why? God does not live in the sky.God is everywhere. And God has already done that. Remember when Jesus was baptized? God did exactly that - speak from the sky - and people Green still reject the message. 

We have lots of press agents, but never once a public sighting of, or statement from the celebrity they claim to represent.

Oddly revealing isn’t it?

Yeah. Reveals a failed epistemology on Green's part. There are quite a few celebrities that are now reclusive and no long appear in public...for years!  People don't go around arguing that they never existed. This is truly a horrible argument.  Where is the "A" material?

If the Christian God truly existed, and wanted to make his thoughts known, he should be able to do that quite easily. I mean, if the aliens in the TV show “V” could appear over 29 major cities simultaneously and communicate a message, then it should be no big deal for a god to do something similar. An unmistakably supernatural communication from Yahweh, which each person heard in their own language, with no middleman, would clear up all confusion sown by competing denominations and theologies.

God has chosen to reveal himself to us the way he has done it. He put you in the best possible circumstances that you could find Him (see Acts 17)  and He has chosen to use the proclamation of the Gospel to draw people to Him If you don't like it, take it up with God. Most denominations are different from the stand point of traditions and worship styles - pick the one that gets you closest to God. As for choosing correct theologies - that is what the Bible is for - read it.

 But it hasn’t happened, and it won’t.

It doesn't need to.

The reason it won't is because the god of the Bible doesn’t exist.

Sure would like to see him prove that. 

That’s why Christians spend so much time speaking on his behalf.

That's not proof. That's completely wrong. Christian spend time talking on God's behalf so that people have not heard about God or know God can know that they are living beneath their privilege. They can have more. 

He is the dummy sitting on their knee, while they play the ventriloquist, projecting their fears and desires and prejudices with a godlike inflection. I think the fact that they talk so much on his behalf is a clue that deep in some dark, repressed corner of their reason, they know that if they stop speaking on behalf of God, there will be a deafening silence.

And then comes the insult. If you think that being a Christian means projecting your thoughts, emotions, prejudices and other foibles on  God, then you are doing it wrong. When I read the Bible and find out what God is like, I find a being wholly different than me and even something that if it had have been up to me would be different. That is how I know I'm not just saying that God agrees with me. He doesn't.  I have to agree with him  and that means changing what I think, feel, and do - and so does everyone else!

I realize that the picture on the left is meant to be derisive, but I agree with it because God does tell us when He doesn't like how we live. It's just that without salvation you are so trapped in your own sin you can't see how to get out of it.


So how about it Christians?

 A simple, modest experiment. For one month, no telling the world what your god wants, thinks, or hates. Also, while we’re at it, how about stopping the dishonest trickery of attributing things that humans accomplish to God – for example when doctors and nurses save a life , you don’t get to praise your Invisible Friend for that.

One month. Let’s see just how much your god can accomplish with no help from you…

God does not need my help, nor anyone else. I have a counter offer. If we can't thank God for anything good or for saving lives in a hospital, then unbelievers can't blames God for any evil and suffering. the  Euthyphro Dilemma and Problem of Evil and  Problem of Suffering arguments cannot be used. I don't think anyone will agree to this because it's the only argument they have although it's completely full of complete and utter failure.

Any takers?

You first.

Debunking Christianity: Why Do Christians Speak for God?

Friday, August 16, 2013

Responding to The West Wing, Homosexuality Argument




Back in 2008, Dr James White responded to the argument against the Bible's teachings on Homosexuality as set forth in the following clip:


Listen to James White explain how the objections show only a surface level understanding of what the Bible says. Follow the link below to hear the program.

Today on <i>The Dividing Line:</i> The Supreme Court, the Law of God, Barack Obama, <i>The West Wing,</i> Pagan Superstitions about the Dead, and Patrick Madrid

Sunday, August 11, 2013

Truthbomb Apologetics: Debate Video: Fazale Rana vs. Michael Ruse on Evolution vs. Design


Here is a great debate about Evolution and Intelligent Design. Rana won this one


Truthbomb Apologetics: Debate Video: Fazale Rana vs. Michael Ruse on Evolution vs. Design

▶ Do Humans Have Free Will? (J.P. Moreland) - YouTube

I disagree with JP Moreland, but this is interesting because this the only subject that I have ever seen that I disagree with him about. Human nature is marred and broken to the point that we are enslaved to sin. That's not free.


▶ Do Humans Have Free Will? (J.P. Moreland) - YouTube

White Like Me: Race, Racism & White Privilege in America

I just heard about a documentary called "White Like Me".

White Like Me, based on the work of acclaimed anti-racist educator and author Tim Wise, explores race and racism in the U.S. through the lens of whiteness and white privilege. In a stunning reassessment of the American ideal of meritocracy and claims that we've entered a post-racial society, Wise offers a fascinating look back at the race-based white entitlement programs that built the American middle class, and argues that our failure as a society to come to terms with this legacy of white privilege continues to perpetuate racial inequality and race-driven political resentments today.

For years, Tim Wise's bestselling books and spellbinding lectures have challenged some of our most basic assumptions about race in America. White Like Me is the first film to bring the full range of his work to the screen -- to show how white privilege continues to shape individual attitudes, electoral politics, and government policy in ways too many white people never stop to think about.

Features Tim Wise, Michelle Alexander, Charles Ogletree, Imani Perry, Martin Gilens, John H. Bracey, Jr., and Nilanjana Dasgupta.  


Here is a trailer for the film





Here is a lecture from Tim Wise


 
Tim Wise - The Pathology of White Privilege from Jack Kooyman on Vimeo.


White Like Me: Race, Racism & White Privilege in America

Saturday, August 10, 2013

High Five of the Day - Stand to Reason | Unstringing the Violinist

Greg Koukl wrote a very good response to the following argument supporting Abortion. 

But now let me ask you to imagine this. You wake up in the morning and find yourself back to back in bed with an unconscious violinist. A famous unconscious violinist. He has been found to have a fatal kidney ailment, and the Society of Music Lovers has canvassed all the available medical records and found that you alone have the right blood type to help. They have therefore kidnapped you, and last night the violinist's circulatory system was plugged into yours, so that your kidneys can be used to extract poisons from his blood as well as your own. The director of the hospital now tells you, "Look, we're sorry the Society of Music Lovers did this to you—we would never have permitted it if we had known. But still, they did it, and the violinist now is plugged into you. To unplug you would be to kill him. But never mind, it's only for nine months. By then he will have recovered from his ailment, and can safely be unplugged from you.

Is it morally incumbent on you to accede to this situation? No doubt it would be very nice of you if you did, a great kindness. But do you have to accede to it? What if it were not nine months, but nine years? Or longer still? What if the director of the hospital says, "Tough luck, I agree, but you've now got to stay in bed, with the violinist plugged into you, for the rest of your life. Because remember this. All persons have a right to life, and violinists are persons. Granted you have a right to decide what happens in and to your body, but a person's right to life outweighs your right to decide what happens in and to your body. So you cannot ever be unplugged from him." I imagine you would regard this as outrageous,[2] which suggests that something really is wrong with that plausible-sounding argument I mentioned a moment ago.
The argument is designed to give people the dilemma of agreeing that in a particular circumstance it is okay to end the life of a person and that it's no different than when it comes to abortion. It's a clever argument designed to make you scratch your head and at first blush agree to it. However with a little bit of thought it is plain to see that the violinist metaphor fails on several levels. Follow the link to see Greg Koukl's answer.

Stand to Reason | Unstringing the Violinist

Thursday, August 8, 2013

FacePlant of the Day - Debunking Christianity: Two Places Where St. Paul’s Theology Totally Contradicts The Gospel of Matthew’s Credibility

Harry H. McCall continues to fall all over himself as he continues his ill-fated attempt to provide reasons for his hypocrisy and apostasy.  His latest attempt tries to set the book of Matthew against Paul's letters.

Christians who accept the Bible (especially the New Testament) as an inspired text will have to deal with the fact that there are some major problems between St. Paul’s view of history and the Gospel of Matthew’s view of historical events.   Ironically, the dogmatic historical certainly of Paul and that of the First Gospel puts yet another nail into the coffin of Christian absolute truth and its holy theology.
Hmmm....wonder what McCall means by "First Gospel"? Does he hold to Matthean Priority? Oh well. Let's see if he can substantiate his charges.

Paul’s View of Events:
. . .that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve (τος δώδεκα).” (1 Corinthians 15: 4 – 5)
Matthew’s View of Events:
So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.”  (Matt. 27: 5) 

Comment:
However, contrary to the Gospel of Matthew, Judas had already hanged himself well before Jesus was even crucified, thus leaving only eleven apostles. So how could there be still have been twelve apostles as Judas was dead and Matthias was not yet chosen:  “Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles.” (See:  Acts 1: 23 -26)

Now where does any of the Gospels say that Matthias was not one of the people who were with the eleven when Jesus showed them He was alive. One of the qualifications to be an Apostle was that you had to be an eye witness to the risen Christ and on top of that Matthias was not the only one outside of the eleven who fit the criteria to be apostle. Paul was counting Matthias as on of the twelve. (See Acts 1: 15 - 26). Obviously, McCall did not read enough or closely.
Paul’s View of Events:
But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. / /  But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming.” (1 Corinthians 15: 20 & 23)
Matthew’s View of Events:
The earth shook, the rocks split and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people. (Matthew 27: 51b – 53)
Comment:
Paul had no knowledge of these dead saints who beat Jesus at his own resurrection game.  So the Christian believer is faced with the hard dilemma of either accepting the Matthean view of historical proofs or Paul’s major Christian eschatology. Either Matthew is caught in a lie, or Paul does NOT know what the hell he’s talking about  . . . or likely both!

Well at least, McCall is admitting Matthew is right. But so is Paul. Resurrection is more than just coming back to life. It means that you never die again. It means getting a transformed body. McCall should recognized this given that he just quoted 1st Corinthians 15 above. Jesus is the only recorded case of someone being Resurrected. Everyone else in the Bible who was brought back from death later died. McCall is making category errors...again. Added to that we must not forget that these people would not have been dead for that long so of course Jerusalem's inhabitants would have recognized them. If you had been wealthy or fortunate enough to have been buried in a tomb, of course your loved ones would have dug up your bone and put them into an ossuary and the tomb recycled for someone else according to customs at the time. Therefore we know that the people who had been raised from the dead, like Lazarus but not like Jesus, would not not have been for a very long time if they were walking out of tombs. . 

Debunking Christianity: Two Places Where St. Paul’s Theology Totally Contradicts The Gospel of Matthew’s Credibility

▶ [William Lane Craig] Q&A - If God foreknows all my decisions, do I have free will? - YouTube

Here is a great summary on the views of Dr William Lane Craig on free will. I disagree with him. He thinks that God knows the future just because he knows what we will do in each and every situation and does nothing to intervene or interfere. I don't think so. While I don't think that God completely controls our every thought and action. Everything that happens is not outside of God's control  or knowledge.


▶ [William Lane Craig] Q&A - If God foreknows all my decisions, do I have free will? - YouTube

Wednesday, August 7, 2013

Truthbomb Apologetics: God and Abstract Objects

I think that this particular podcast is very interesting. William Lane Craig discusses abstract objects and how they relate to God.  It bothered me that Craig, while arguing that Moral values and obligations can only be grounded in the being of God, he does not want to think the same of abstract objects. Mathematics and morals are all sourced from God. Follow the link to get to the podcast.

Truthbomb Apologetics: God and Abstract Objects

▶ Sam Harris vs Reza Aslan Full Unedited Video - YouTube

Here is a great debate. I had a very hard time with this debate because when a Muslim debates an Atheists because it is hard to know who to root for. I mean they are both wrong in so many ways but it is interesting to see how a celebrated atheist like Harris would argue against a liberal westernized Muslim like Aslan.  They disagreed about a few things but instead focused on their differences.


▶ Sam harris vs Reza Aslan Full Unedited Video - YouTube

Truthbomb Apologetics: Video: The Real Jesus- New Evidence from History and Archeology by Historian Paul Maier

Chad, from Truthbomb Apologetics, has posted  a really great lecture from Paul Maier about the historical and archeological evidence for Jesus Christ.


Truthbomb Apologetics: Video: The Real Jesus- New Evidence from History and Archeology by Historian Paul Maier

Sunday, August 4, 2013

Better Interviews of Reza Aslan than Fox News

The more interviews of Reza Aslan that I hear, the more upset I am regarding their interview. There is so much I disagree with him about but the way Fox News handled the interview really sucked badly. Instead of really engaging him on what he wrote and what he believes about the origins of Christianity, they butchered their chance at really getting the truth out there. I wonder if this was calculated because that interview put him on the map and he sold more books than he would have otherwise. And while the following interview is good, I want to see an interview challenging him on his conclusions and "facts".  Here is hoping he will do some of those type interviews.

▶ Jennifer Crumpton interviews Reza Aslan, author of "Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth"


▶ Jennifer Crumpton interviews Reza Aslan, author of "Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth" - YouTube

Debunking Christianity: Two New Books on the Historicity of Jesus by Richard Carrier and Robert Price

John Loftus has recently posted an article discussing two books by Richard Carrier and Robert Price challenging the Historicity of  Jesus' existence. Carrier has finally decided to write a book trying to explain what he thinks about Jesus. Price has been up front and honest that he does not think that Jesus existed and that most historians and scholar (Christians or not) disagree with him. However up until now Carrier has not been as dogmatic about it, but just suggested that Jesus did not exist. Loftus posted the following video. Carrier does not make a point to allege that he can prove emphatically that Jesus did not exist, but now he has written a book. I won't try to say that he is now saying the he can prove that Jesus did not exist because I have not read the book. However, the video does seem to explain that Carrier thinks that it is reasonable to hold the idea that Jesus may not have existed. 




Richard Carrier's version


However Bart Ehrman says something qualitatively different

Bart Ehrman's Version


So which is it? Ehrman is an Agnostic. Carrier is an atheist. They both reject the Bible as being infallible. They both reject Christianity. They both reject Jesus' Resurrection. They disagree about Jesus' existence as a living person. They both can't be right.  How do you know? The preponderance of evidence is on Ehrman's side. What about other professional historian?

Various other Historians




Debunking Christianity: Two New Books on the Historicity of Jesus by Richard Carrier and Robert Price

Thursday, August 1, 2013

What is the Kalam Cosmological Argument? Video - Apologetics 315



This video summarizes the Kalam Cosmological Argument!


What is the Kalam Cosmological Argument? Video - Apologetics 315

FacePalm of the Day - Debunking Christianity: Neuroscience is Destroying the Notions of Free Will, Sin and Salvation by Faith

It's posts like this that makes me question if John Loftus was ever really a Christian. I mean it's like he has no idea what Christians believe or what the Bible teaches that Christians should believe. Take a look at his intro paragraph.

Neuroscience is making it extremely difficult for believers to still claim that by freely choosing to believe we are saved (or condemned), that we freely choose to sin, or that there is a wrathful God who will judge us on the last day. Case in point, girls and boys, are the following two essays, the last of which I will quote from. The first is Grandma’s Experiences Leave a Mark on Your Genes. Now for the second one, "The Brain on Trial." [Be sure to read this essay at least as far as the highlighted money quote in red!].
Where does the Bible say that we freely choose sin? But I want to hold off on that a moment and point out what Loftus considers the main point.

The crux of the problem is that it no longer makes sense to ask, “To what extent was it his biology, and to what extent was it him?,” because we now understand that there is no meaningful distinction between a person’s biology and his decision-making. They are inseparable. 
Has Loftus ever read the Bible? I ask because he seems to fail to recognize that the Bible does not teach that people are "all adults possess the same capacity to make sound choices." We don't. We, by default, are broken and hostile to God and God's ways. We are not good outside of God's mercy and influence - even the atheist who does something good for someone else. This is not new information. Sin is hardcoded in us - post fall. Adam and Eve are the only other human beings other than Jesus Christ who know what it is like not to be driven to commit sin. Therefore neuroscience does not destroy what Christians believe about sin or salvation but instead underscores why we need it. Everyone is broken to different degrees and in different ways. You might not desire to kill others, but just like the articles point out, given the circumstances you don't really know what you would or would not do. Everyone needs a savior because we are not free or independent. We are held hostage by sin - which is even a part of our biology.

Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. - Psalm 51:5


22 This righteousness is given through faith in[h] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. - Romans 3:22-24


12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—  - Romans 5:12




Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. - Romans 8:5-8

I can already hear the objection because people have been using it since Adam messed up in the Garden of Eden. If we are slaves to sin, and God allowed us to come here that way, why does he hold us responsible? Asked and Answered along time ago.


19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? - Romans 8:19-24

It's tight but it's right. You can fool yourself into thinking that you just happen to be better than the people you like compare yourself with or you can admit your own failing and be free of your prison. If you want to be free that is God drawing you to Jesus. Reach out and take the salvation Jesus is offering you.

Debunking Christianity: Neuroscience is Destroying the Notions of Free Will, Sin and Salvation by Faith

Wednesday, July 31, 2013

Reza Aslan's "Zealot" Firestorm

You may have seen the viral video from Fox News' Lauren Green's interview of  Dr Reza Aslan on his book on Jesus titled "Zealot". Watch it here.  The interview is horrible.  Although I don't agree with Reza Aslan's conclusions, from what I've heard,  I was appalled by the bias and unfairness leveled against him. It was painfully obvious that Green  (and maybe her producers either) had not read Aslan's book and did not understand his arguments in the slightest. It was disrespectful. It looked like the Fox News deal was to just to pretend that because Aslan is a Muslim he has no right to comment on Jesus and history. Aslan is wrong in many of his conclusions but he has every right to say it. Many non-Muslims have come to many of the same conclusions about Jesus. Aslan has every right to be wrong as the liberal "christian" or atheist or agnostic scholar.

A firestorm has been launched over this interview that has gone viral. I think it is worth looking at some of the comments and stories around this. For an atheist's perspective, check out John Loftus' short post
Reza Aslan Interviewed on Fox News About His New Book, "Zealot". Loftus was correct about how bad the interview was but I know he does not fully come to the same detailed conclusions that Aslan has and I get the feeling that he'd rather ignore Aslan completely because Aslan is a Muslim. Aslan is not wrong because he is a Muslim, he is wrong because he doesn't let the Bible speak and fairly weigh it, as James White points out in his webcast yesterday. Dr White goes much farther in showing why he disagrees with Dr Aslan (he even read the book) and quoted from an interview Aslan gave recently showing why Aslan was not a Christian (like every apostate I've ever heard from). Read the interview Exclusive Loonwatch Interview with Reza Aslan.
I don't have a problem with non-Christians discussing the content of the Bible. It opens up a dialog.

The interview made Fox News look so bad they felt the need to respond



The YoungTurks channel had some choice comments as well





If you are interested in a more indepth review on what Aslan actually wrote about Jesus check out