This is an interesting infographic. Gender should not be equated to sexual orientation. However gender is not a continuum it is something you are born with and is determined by your chromosomes. Two "X" chromosomes equal female. An "X" and "Y" chromosomes makes you "male". There is no between when everything goes normal. Cases of hermaphrodites and the extremely rare case of having neither genitalia are not different points. Gender is biological. You have no more choice over your gender than you do over what anyone else does. Or who your parents are. Or where and when you are born. You can't change any of these things, why do you think you should have the right to change your gender?
Gender, A Helpful Infographic | The Angry Black Woman
Gender is biological. You have no more choice over your gender than you do over what anyone else does.
ReplyDeleteProblem is, like many words, "gender" has multiple definitions (we can skip the definition related to grammar). See Merriam-Webster... You're conflating the definition for gender(def2a) that relates to the biological sex of an animal with the definition that relates to the cultural aspects of gender(def2b). Gender(def2b) is how a culture defines the sexes, so to a certain degree, yes, one can define their own gender(def2b) and people do it all the time.
To make sweeping pronouncements without considering that the person you are engaging with is using a word in a different way than you would like is one of your hallmarks though.
Did you look at the graphic? Guess not. I'm not surprised. That is one of your hallmarks.
ReplyDeleteYes, of course I did. To be fair, the "angry black woman" is just as wrong as you. Both column headings on the graphic should say "gender is...".
ReplyDeleteI think the Graphic says exactly what it was intended to say. I was clear in my use of "gender" and you can't consistently redefine it any more than you can change the characteristics of a circle or triangle.
ReplyDelete...you can't consistently redefine it any more than you can change the characteristics of a circle or triangle.
ReplyDeleteYou'd need to substantiate this, and take your argument up with Merriam-Webster...
I think the Graphic says exactly what it was intended to say.
ReplyDeleteProbably, but that's not to say she isn't wrong...
It means something to be a male. It means something to be female. A male cannot give birth to a child. A male cannot be a mother. A female cannot be a father. What Merriam-Webster fails to add to its definitions is that what society does culturally about gender does not change what gender is. 100 years ago the dictionary would not make a difference between biological gender and "cultural aspects". Redefining "Gender" does not change the problem or makes it okay to conflate men and women. Ontologically we are the same - no more and no less - but we have different roles.
ReplyDeleteIt means something to be a male. It means something to be female. A male cannot give birth to a child. A male cannot be a mother. A female cannot be a father.... Ontologically we are the same - no more and no less
ReplyDeleteUm... What????
Can you tell us what you think "ontologically" means?
Plus, there's this and this.
Look up "ontology" since you are fond of Miriam-Webster.
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a. A trangendered man with a womb is still a woman - doesn't count.
b. A fish is not a human being and not even all fish or other lifeforms that have gender have the same ability.
I'd say "Nice Try" but I'd be blind like you at best and a liar at worst.
Yes, ontology refers to the study of being or existence. I think you might have meant "legally" or "spiritually" instead of "ontologically".
ReplyDeleteAs for your comment regarding my references, if you are saying "biological gender"(def2a) for homo sapiens only relates to the sexes, well then yes, of course you are correct, but that is a tautology and those are always correct...
Yes, ontology refers to the study of being or existence. I think you might have meant "legally" or "spiritually" instead of "ontologically".
ReplyDeleteMaybe you need to read more philosophy.
Like what?
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ReplyDeleteMen and Women are ontologically the same - meaning in essence and being neither are superior to the other.
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
But men and women have different roles in Marriage
1 Corinthians 11:3-12
New International Version (NIV)
3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.
7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.
Paul is quite clear. You can't hold the Son's ontological equality with the Father and deny male and female equality. It doesn't work.
Thanks, I just won a bet.
ReplyDeleteReally, me too. Thanks ever so much.
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