Thursday, September 22, 2011

FacePalm of the Day #126 - Debunking Christianity: The Real God

John Loftus posted the following YouTube video on his blog








The video has the following description

Because I was constantly being told that I'm rejecting God, and I knew that wasn't true, I decided to research rejection, which made me aware of its effects. My studies took me in a completely unexpected direction. The epiphany (pun intended) was rather shocking. The evidence indicates that the personal god is a manifestation of the ego, which explains a plethora of theistic tendencies, including their typical dislike of atheists, who theists subconsciously perceive to be rejecting a part of themselves. God is Tyler Durden; and the first rule of Jesus Club is you have to talk about Jesus Club. The second rule of Jesus Club is you have to talk about Jesus Club.


Loftus offers the following blog post as corroboration

For corroboration see this.

There is a lot wrong with the video. Let's just take a step back and look at some of the fail.  It would take a while to enumerate all the places where this video fails so let's just look at what I think are the two major problems. While it's true that many Christians who are rejected or rebuffed by skeptics and Atheists do take it personally, we should not. They are not rejecting us but they are rejecting God. The example of trying to introduce someone to another and the person rejects what they are told about the person even if the person is real is really a dumb defense. The scenario is missing an important point: God is not far from anyone of us. If a person wants to know who God is,. they don't have to solely go on mine or anyone else's testimony. You can know God for yourself. And not God as you think God is but God as God truly exist. We can trust God, not ourselves.

The other problem is that as I have already argued, a Christian who follows the Bible is acutely aware that God is not like us. There are things that is in our own hearts and minds that we know are contrary to how the Bible tells us God is. We know that we cannot meet the standard God has called us to on our own. The point of being a Christian is that God will and does make us into what we were intended to be in God.

 28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who[a] have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.- Romans 8:28-29

5For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now;
 6Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
 7Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace. - Phillips 1:5-7


12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.
 14 Do everything without grumbling or arguing, - Philippians 2:12-14


If you have not experienced this then it's no surprise you are not born-again.  However, it's not  too late. God is calling you to Himself.

16 So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. 21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. - 2 Corinthians 5:16-21

All you have to do is answer, "YES!"


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