Monday, February 6, 2012

FacePalm of the Day: Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier On The Eclipse of the Sun At The Death of Jesus

John Loftus posted an argument that Dr Richard Carrier has included in his upcoming book, claiming that the Bible's truthfulness is discredited by the claim that Darkness covered the world for three hours  while Jesus was alive and on the cross and there is no other record of it happening.  Here is what Loftus posted. 
I've received an uncorrected advance reading copy of Richard Carrier's book Proving History: Bayes's Theorem and the Quest for the Historical Jesus. I'll say more about it later after I've finished reading it. But he highlights a serious problem for inerrantists that I'd like to share. In chapter three he evaluates the claim of the gospels that at the death of Jesus "there was darkness over the whole world from the sixth hour until the ninth" (Mark 15:33; Matthew 27:45; Luke 23:44-45). If it was meant to be taken literally per Luke, who claims it was an eclipse of the sun ("...for the sun stopped shining"), it could not have happened.

Why? Because a three hour eclipse over the whole world is scientifically impossible. They only last a few minutes, not three hours. They do not cover the whole earth at the same time either, since they only cover parts of it as earth revolves. An eclipse additionally could not have occurred during the Passover, for the Passover was always celebrated during the full moon. This means the moon was on the opposite side of the earth from the sun at that time. Lastly, the entire world at the time had its astrologer/astronomers and not one of them mentioned it. Carrier writes, "This is a slam dunk argument...establishing beyond any reasonable doubt the non-historicity of this solar event."
One of the comments on the post bears careful scrutiny because it attempts to deal with Christian answers to the objection Carrier and Loftus are trying to run up the proverbial flag pole:

extian
John, you might be aware that many apologists like to point out that the passages never specifically mention an eclipse, only a "darkness" and that "the sun stopped shining" - a supernatural event with no natural reference. They will quote Africanus (AD 221) who referenced Thallus, a first-century historian, as corroborating the darkness event.

The problem is that we don't have Thallus' original words, we don't know where he got his sources, and we don't know if Africanus was right in assuming that the "darkness" Thallus refers to was actually the same "darkness" described in the crucifixion story. Thus, the "darkness" remains uncorroborated.

I believe Richard Carrier wrote an article on this on infidels.org, but he also might've included it in this book.
I have indeed heard this defense against the charge that the darkness did not happen. Ironically, extian states the argument better than Loftus does. .Three of the four gospels say it did. Let's look at the passages.

33 At noon, darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon. - Mark 15:33

45 From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land. - Matthew 27:45

44 It was now about noon, and darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon, 45 for the sun stopped shining. And the curtain of the temple was torn in two. - Luke 23:44-45

The sun not shining is definitely not an eclipse. I would not go that far as throwing out the account. I think that no one has enough data to say that it didn't happen and therefore throwing out the Gospels is not just not warranted but silly. I'm amazed how much much weight is being given to Dr Richard Carrier. Loftus does not make it clear whether he is stating that the darkness was caused by an eclipse or is it just him saying that. Either way, it greatly undermines the argument against the Gospel accounts because none of them say it was an eclipse.

Debunking Christianity: Richard Carrier On The Eclipse of the Sun At The Death of Jesus
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Scholar Interview: Craig Keener - Apologetics 315

Brian Auten posted his interview with Dr Craig Keener on his research on Miracles. Anyone who has an interest in why we can accept Biblical miracles are reliable should listen to this audio interview!

Scholar Interview: Craig Keener - Apologetics 315

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Using John 10:30 Accurately

James White has posted a video in which he explains how we can understand John 10:30 as more than just a "proof-text" for the Trinity.
I and the Father are one.” - John 10:30
 





This video is very important especially given the fact that this verse is used by both Trinitarians and Oneness folks like the man in the next video.

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Using John 10:30 Accurately
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Ehteshaam Gulam vs James White

I came across a video last night on YouTube raising the same tired accusation about the scholarly credentials against Dr James White:








This isn't a new video or a new accusation. Basically, Dr White is a brilliant scholar and a very able debater. I find this objection raised against him from people who are either too scared to debate him, or have been so humbled publicly they have to desperately grope in the darkness for some weapon to try to hit him with. It's truly sad and pathetic. Dr White has answered such accusations many times and if you want to know what he has to say on it, read the following link on his blog:

Of Doctorates and Eternity (Part 1)
Of Gary Novak and the Columbia River
"The Saga of Accreditation" 

But it made me wonder why would Ehteshaam Gulam go through such lengths to try to make Dr. White look bad? Coincidentally, I saw three tweets from Dr. White the next night that answered the question for me.









I had seen the debate back in 2009 but it appears that only now has Dr White has been able to see it, and I have to agree Mary Jo Sharp handled Ehteshaam Gulam. He was toasted. I have heard Dr White refer to a Gulam and his antics and cyber stalking before but this was the first time I realized that he is the same man who debated Mary Jo Sharp.From this it doesn't take long to find out how all this got started between Gulam and White. And it's not just because White is a Christian and Gulam is a Muslim.

Back in June 2010, Dr James White was  to debate Sheikh Ahmed Awal but Awal backed out of it the last minute. Ehteshaam Gulam was supposed to be a replacement for a "discussion". At the time, Dr White blogged about it and said that it was horrible and much of an embarrassment for Ehteshaam Gulam and for Muslims. I truly admire Dr White for not seeking to decimate people and embarrass them more than necessary. However some people just will not let you be nice to them. Gulam accused White of hiding their "debate" so Dr White posted the entire thing on YouTube and a complete documentation of what happened in the way of background.








Just how bad and one-sided was it? It was so one-sided Ehteshaam Gulam felt the need to post two videos to try to make up for it. Notice how in the beginning how he characterizes the encounter










Obviously Ehteshaam Gulam thought he got some points and thoughts because also released the following:



It seems silly. Wasn't Gulam supposed to have prepared scholarly responses to James White when he had his "debate" with him June 21, 2010? Look at what the man is saying. He's whining because Dr White didn't link to his responses. If these video are his prepared and scholarly response, what would he call what he brought June 21, 2010?

I decided to do a little more digging to see if Dr. White had posted anything more on  Ehteshaam Gulam because I could not remember. Turns out if you are interested in this, you must read

Ehteshaam Gulam: Islamic Cyber Stalker

In this post, Dr White documents how for an extended period of time Gulam has been trying to bully Dr. White's ministry into taking down the video from June, 2010. Dr White wrote the following from the above link:

Now, all of a sudden, Mr. Gulam has become an Internet stalker making blackmail demands that we remove the video that he himself demanded we post in the first place! At one point Ehteshaam said I had "ruined his life" by posting it--and in the next tweet said he was kidding. In any case, he has taken to creating new Twitter accounts each time I, and others, block him, all to spam everyone with links to his lame attempts to attack me personally, all because he won't do his own homework and deal with what I have said openly and consistently about my educational background. The cost for him to start acting his age and not like a twelve year old with a fast internet connection? I must remove that video.

Now, some might be tempted to connect Ehteshaam's behavior to Islam, and say he is seeking to put me in a position of dhimmitude. Well, he may well be thinking that, but I do not see it that way. There are lots of immature, mean-spirited people out there who harass us regularly. Many of them claim to be Christians and wouldn't know how to spell dhimmitude, let alone know what it means. So I see Mr. Gulam as simply an angry cyber-stalker who, for some reason, has decided to lash out at some perceived injury, all the while knowing inside he is the one who brought the injury on himself, both by foolishly engaging in the "discussion" we had, and then foolishly demanding I post it publicly! 

It's truly sad that people would rather throw accusations and bad mouth others instead of providing a good response. If Gulam is correct than why resort to such tactics? I agree with Dr. White that it is just wrong to assume that all Muslims are like Gulam in this regard when we all know that some people who claim to be Christians do far worse. The best things anyone can do is to not be like that. The Holy Spirit does not need it in order to draw people. I'm also glad that Dr. White did not remove the video but instead stood his ground  for truth - Him and his small, but dedicated ministry. I've been watching and learning from Dr White for a while now, and despite a couple of minor things I disagree with, I find him solid and honest in his dealings with others. His work has truly been a blessing and people like Gulam can in no way stop what God is doing through Alpha and Omega Ministries.




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Sunday, February 5, 2012

John Lennox on the Definition of Faith - Apologetics 315

Brian Auten has posted a great comment from Dr. John Lennox about what "faith" is on his blog!

"Faith is not a leap in the dark; it’s the exact opposite. It’s a commitment based on evidence… It is irrational to reduce all faith to blind faith and then subject it to ridicule. That provides a very anti-intellectual and convenient way of avoiding intelligent discussion.”

- John Lennox
[HT: FaithInterface]

Thanks, Brian. This is what many people who object to Christianity does not get or even seem to be trying to understand. Dr Lennox is right on.


John Lennox on the Definition of Faith - Apologetics 315
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Is There A Connection Between Jesus and Inanna?

I've done several  blog posts on the Christ Myth, and I think that there is another one in order. The Christ Myth is the theory that what we believe about Jesus was cobbled together from myths and stories of  dying and rising gods from pagan sources predating Jesus. This time I want to look at the myth of Inanna. I researching on Ehteshaam Gulam on YouTube I came across the following video:





Recall that Ehteshaam Gulam has debated Mary Jo Sharp on the topic of whether or not Jesus died on the cross and lost miserably. Being the sore looser he seems to be, it seems that he has decided to attack another topic that Mary Jo Sharp has spent a great deal of her considerable skills fighting against - the Christ Myth. But rather than engage in a scholarly moderated debate (that she did offer to do with him), he made the video embedded above. Go Figure. Personally, I think it was because he doesn't want to be trounced again.

But be that as it may, in the video he makes the claim that three figures can be pointed out as being just like Jesus - died and rose again.

1. Inanna
2. Osirus - which I have already address here.
3. Apollonius of Tyana - which I have also already posted on here

I admit Inanna is a new one for me and surprise, surprise - Inanna is a she! I had never heard of her before I saw this video. I want to focus on Inanna on this post because I have seen the claims for Osius and Apollonius resoundly destroyed by Jame White, James P. Holding, Lee Strobel, and others. Ehteshaam Gulam claims that further information on Inanna can be found at:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/improbable/crucified.h... 


James Holding asks: "Who on earth would believe a religion centered on a crucified man?" Well, the Sumerians perhaps. One of their top goddesses, Inanna (the Babylonian Ishtar, Goddess of Love and "Queen of Heaven"), was stripped naked and crucified, yet rose again and, triumphant, condemned to Hell her lover, the shepherd-god Dumuzi (the Babylonian Tammuz). This became the center of a major Sumerian sacred story, preserved in clay tablets dating over a thousand years before Christ.[1] The corresponding religion, which we now know included the worship of a crucified Inanna, is mentioned by Ezekiel as having achieved some popularity within Jerusalem itself by the 6th century B.C. The "women weeping for Tammuz" at the north gate of the Jewish temple (Ezekiel 8:14) we now know were weeping because Inanna had condemned him to Hell, after herself being crucified and resurrected. So the influence of this religious story and its potent, apparently compelling allure upon pre-Christian Judaism is in evidence.[2]
Even so, my point is not that the Christians got the idea of a crucified god from early Inanna cult. There may have been some direct or indirect influence we cannot trace. We can't rule that out--the idea of worshipping a crucified deity did predate Christianity and had entered Jewish society within Palestine. But we don't know any more than that.[3] Rather, my point is that we have here a clear example of many people worshipping a crucified god. Therefore, as a matter of principle--unless Holding wants to claim that Inanna really was resurrected--it appears that people would worship a false crucified god. Therefore, Holding cannot claim this is improbable.
 I also think that  Ehteshaam Gulam should pay close attention to the third note:

[3] I caution strongly against overzealous attempts to link Christianity with prior religions--see my critical comment on "Kersey Graves and The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors" (2003); and for a good comparative study see Hans-Josef Klauck, The Religious Context of Early Christianity: A Guide to Graeco-Roman Religions (2000). But I can't deny there are some intriguing parallels, including those between this story of Inanna and the story of the Incarnation of the Lord told in the Ascension of Isaiah. There are many important differences, but it is curious that in the Sumerian story Inanna descends through the seven gates of Hell, with a different encounter at each stage, and her humiliation and crucifixion are at the bottom. Similarly, in the Jewish story the Savior (Jesus) descends through the seven heavens, with a different encounter at each stage, and his humiliation and crucifixion are at the bottom. Jesus also supposedly said he would be "three days and three nights" in the grave (Matthew 12:40), while Inanna herself was dead for three days and three nights. Of course, we are told Jesus was not actually dead for three nights, only at most two, but it is still curious why there would be a tradition of his saying otherwise, a tradition matching that of Inanna.
       I admit these parallels are worth noting, but they are too little to make much of. For instance, Jonah 1:17 also shares the three-days-and-nights motif (and Matthew 12:40 explicitly draws from it), which, as I explain elsewhere, probably derived from a common ancient concept of death. See Richard Carrier, "Jewish Law, the Burial of Jesus, and the Third Day" (2002). On the Jonah parallel specifically (as a motif for death and resurrection), see Evan Fales, "Taming the Tehom," in Jeff Lowder & Bob Price, eds., The Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond the Grave (2005). Therefore, the suggestion is not that the Christians "got the idea" of a third-day motif from Inanna cult (directly or by transmission through later religions), but that they "got the idea" from the same cultural concepts governing the construction of the Inanna myth.

 However this brings up some questions for me. What is mean here by "crucifixion"? The Sumarians did not crucify people and certainly not a thousand years before Jesus?

 Crucifixion was in use at a comparatively high rate among the Seleucids, Carthaginians, and Romans from about the 6th century BC to the 4th century AD. In the year 337, Emperor Constantine I abolished it in the Roman Empire out of veneration for Jesus Christ, the most famous victim of crucifixion.[2][3] It was also used as a form of execution in Japan for criminals, inflicted also on some Christians. (Wikipedia - Crucifixion)

I want to know how does the Ascension of Isaiah have anything to do with the Gospel narrative, given that  it's not canonical and post dates the four Biblical gospels. Gonna have to reach farther than that. So I decided to see if such evidence exists that Inanna was what is being alleged. The article does include some references but it turns out that there are multiple versions of Inanna's story.

One version can be found on Wikipedia - under Inanna's Descent to the Underworld and the other at Aren’t there some striking parallels between the Jesus and Inanna stories?

The versions of the story I looked at both agree that Inanna went to the underworld ornately dressed but by the time she reached the bottom she was naked. But she took off her clothes one by one - she was not stripped by force. The Wikipedia version of the story does not even mention any violence towards her. But the other article does describe her being put on a stake or meat hook.  Nothing like the crucifixion Jesus endured. Look at this from the second article.I'm going to bold the original text and annotate it with some some additional points:

Some parallels, but nothing striking.  Inanna, the Sumerian goddess of love, procreation, and war, was at times considered either a virgin or very promiscuous.  In some versions of the story, Inanna descends to the underworld to visit her sister Ereckigala, the goddess of death.  As she passes through seven gateways, she is forced to surrender all seven articles of her clothing, one item at a time, finally arriving at her sister's lair naked. 

No where in the Bible does it say anything about seven gates to hell or seven gates to heaven. The myths make Inanna seem schizophrenic.  There are also various reasons why Inanna even wanted go to hell. The being naked part by the time she reaches the final destination is consistent. I wonder why? Wink wink. Nudge nudge.

Ereckigala becomes furious and kills Inanna, then hangs her on a meathook or nail. 

 Inanna's minister, Nincubar, sends a pair of flies to Ereckigala to bargain for Inanna's release.  Ereckigala releases Inanna on the condition that she find someone to take her place.  Inanna is either reincarnated into a new body or is resurrected to life, ascends from the underworld, and finds that her consort, Tammuz, had taken over her throne.  She sends Tammuz to the underworld in her place. 
 
I just don't see how this is like the Gospels at all. Inanna did not die as a substitution for anyone. Someone else was substituted in her place. That's backwards. If Christians wanted to make something up based on the same ideas as Inanna, why flip it?



Critics claim that Inanna was crucified, though no cross or tree was involved, and, besides, she was already dead when placed upon the meathook or nail. 

That's a good point.

Critics claim that Inanna was resurrected, which is true in some pre-Christian versions of the story, so this is a valid similarity.  However, since the death and resurrection took place in the underworld, and not in ours, the similarity lacks much in the way of comparisons to Jesus.

Critics claim that Inanna was a savior.  She was not.

Exactly, her death and resurrection changed nothing on earth or had any meaningful effect on anyone else.  not directly involved in the story. If you need to appeal to the myth of Inanna to find a corresponding story of a dying and rising God to compare to Jesus Christ, you are really despersately scraping the proverbial bottom of the barrel .  Jesus is the one and only.


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Saturday, February 4, 2012

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Answering Muslims: Andrew Klavan: Multiculturalism Explained

David Wood called my attention to the following video by Andrew Klavan. He makes the point of absurdity of moral relativism. I was thrown by the video at first because in my experience, we Americans usually does not equate "multiculturalism" with "moral relativism" but I get what Klavan is getting at. I don't think Multiculturalism must take the form that Klavan is advocating against. I see nothing wrong with respecting other people's customs and languages as valid as your own as long as they are giving the same to you - you know like not threatening to kill you, flying airplanes into your building, or changing your laws to make it okay to kill your children for not choosing to follow their culture. I don't see how multiculturism must lead to moral relativism. All cultures are equally valid in that every human being needs salvation from our sins. All moral claims however are not equally valid. Klavan covers many of those reasons.



Answering Muslims: Andrew Klavan: Multiculturalism Explained

Answering Muslims: James White Responds to . . . Total Nonsense

David Wood posted a summary of the rebuttal video to Ivey Conerly's and Dr James White's video that was in itself a rebuttal to this video by  Kamal Saleh. I posted a blog post containing those videos here. I just loved David Wood's comment.

In response to the videos we watched yesterday [a few days ago from today's perspective] , Muslims posted one of their famous "You-can't-make-me-believe-because-I-refuse-to-think" videos:




And Here is Dr White's Response




Answering Muslims: James White Responds to . . . Total Nonsense

Friday, February 3, 2012

Fistbump of the Day: dangerous idea: Is Reasonable Faith an Oxymoron?

Dr. Victor Reppert has written a very insightful post that I think should be repeated:


Faith does seem to involve believing in spite of something. Atheists jump on this and say that what believers are talking about is believing in spite of having no good reason to believe it, and good reason to not believe it.

However, we can, for example, trust that a spouse is going to be faithful even though the spouse is out of our sight. In fact, the Apostle Paul contrasts faith with sight, not reason. Unless seeing is the only way we can have a good reason to believe something, it does seem to me that we cannot say that reasonable faith is an oxymoron by definition.

I agree with him and I find that many Atheist make that mistake because they don't know what "Biblical faith" is. They even make the mistake of missing the obvious that there is no reason to reject anything of great importance if the best you can do is point to the improbability of it. And then to get mad at other who are unconvinced of the lack of evidence? Makes no sense.


dangerous idea: Is Reasonable Faith an Oxymoron?
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Thursday, February 2, 2012

FacePalm of the Day: Debunking Christianity: "Why We Must Treat the Bible No Differently Than Any Other Book" By Biblical Scholar James A. Metzger

John Loftus posted the following comment from Dr James A. Metzger

...many theologians and biblical scholars continue to speak of the Christian God in only the most sterling manner: as, for instance, all-loving, just, infinitely wise, and inexhaustibly merciful. But this is not the God of the Bible – not even close. If that were the God of the Bible, I would retain little respect for its authors, who would have proven themselves far more interested in promoting a fiction they liked than in bearing witness to the terrible, unpredictable Power they felt best accounted for (often unseemly) facts on the ground. There’s just no way that the omnibenevolent, all-wise Sovereign of traditional Christianity created and presides over this place. No, if there’s a God at all, he’s likely just the sort we find in the Bible – magnanimous and cruel, loving and spiteful, noble and base, impulsive and deliberate, intelligent and incompetent, responsible and spectacularly negligent. A little like us, in fact, but with a lot more power. Link

This is really amazing...but not in a good way. Metzger seems to think that there is a conflict between describing God as "all-loving, just, infinitely wise, and inexhaustibly merciful" and the actions of God in the Bible. I disagree. There is no contradiction. I think Metzger is confused because he mistakenly thinks that the Bible describes a god like us despite all of the chapters and verses describing how God is not like us at all.

Here are just two but there are loads of others

6 Seek the LORD while he may be found;
   call on him while he is near.
7 Let the wicked forsake their ways
   and the unrighteous their thoughts.
Let them turn to the LORD, and he will have mercy on them,
   and to our God, for he will freely pardon.  8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
   neither are your ways my ways,”
            declares the LORD.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
   so are my ways higher than your ways
   and my thoughts than your thoughts.
10 As the rain and the snow
   come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
   without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
   so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,
11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth:
   It will not return to me empty,
but will accomplish what I desire
   and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.- Isaiah 55:6-11

And

19 God is not human, that he should lie,
   not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
   Does he promise and not fulfill?- Numbers 23:!9

Metzger seems to be making a major mistake. Where the Bible tells of  God's justice and punishment of sin, he fails to see that it does not mean that God is not benevolent or loving. He is like a child who pouts because of his being chastised and disciplined by his parent - although he knows he deserves it. Metzger makes the same mistake many Christians make in thinking that God is just a buddy - an equal. God is not like that at all. "Sovereign" is too small a word to describe God's authority., power, and the right to do anything pleases and how he pleases it - even if we don't like it. God is so much in control, he even allows us to not like it so that we know just how much we need God. It's a blessing.  You get to understand God better and yourself as you understand your relationship with God better. God always causes His people to triumph, but we don't get tell God what that triumph looks like - He tells us. Recall that God does give us mercy but He decides to whom, when, and how much.

14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,
   “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
   and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

 16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
 19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
 22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? - Romans 9:14-24

Debunking Christianity: "Why We Must Treat the Bible No Differently Than Any Other Book" By Biblical Scholar James A. Metzger
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J. Michael Straczynski: 'I Would Have Absolutely Zero Right To Complain' About Unauthorized 'Babylon 5' Prequels - ComicsAlliance | Comic book culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews

Today, Comics Alliance has also published an Article about J. Michael Straczynski's further comments today regarding his role in DC's plans in publishing more Watchmen stories. He answer the really great question of would he feel any different than Alan Moore does if Warner Brothers tried to redo, reboot, or mess with Babylon 5 without his blessing or involvement. Good reading

J. Michael Straczynski: 'I Would Have Absolutely Zero Right To Complain' About Unauthorized 'Babylon 5' Prequels - ComicsAlliance | Comic book culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews
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Parting Shot: Image Comics Publisher Calls Watchmen Prequels 'A Dirty Deal' - ComicsAlliance | Comic book culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews

This comment has changed my opinion on Alan Moore's resistance to having DC publishing the characters in Watchmen in new stories without his input.
Mr Stephenson makes a good point. I did not realize that Gibbons and Moore had a deal and DC did not honor it!

Parting Shot: Image Comics Publisher Calls Watchmen Prequels 'A Dirty Deal' - ComicsAlliance | Comic book culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews

Answering Muslims: William Federer: Mohammed's History

Here is a video on Muhammad's life. Thanks to David Wood for calling attention to it.

Mohammed's History from Calvary Chino Hills on Vimeo.


Answering Muslims: William Federer: Mohammed's History

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Wednesday, February 1, 2012

Scholar Interview: Peter J. Williams - Apologetics 315

This week's interview from Brian Auten was really interesting. He spoke to Dr Peter J Williams. I really enjoyed it and found his views and methods at looking at Biblical reliability extremely useful. He had a great deal of advice and knowledge worth taking to heart.

Scholar Interview: Peter J. Williams - Apologetics 315
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FacePlant of the Day Not Even an Omniscient God Could Convince Me That I Willfully Reject Christianity Against the Overwhelming Evidence

Just when I can't think John Loftus could not write anything more outlandish, he exceeds himself.  Let's examine this latest "gem".

I cannot conceive of an omniscient God being able to do this given all that I know about Christianity, the Bible, theology, philosophy, science, and the history of the church.

Think about what he is saying: an omniscient God is incapable of convincing him that Christianity is true because he knows too much. In order to even think of such a thing, one would have to imagine that their own level of knowledge must border on omniscience - all knowledge. I mean does he really think that if God knows everything God does not know what would convince him....I mean Loftus claimed that he once was convinced. Was Loftus ignorant then? How can he be so sure now if he thinks he was so wrong then?

For God to do this he would have to re-create this universe and basically rewrite history itself.

God isn't just omniscient. God is also omnipotent therefore he could if he wanted to, but why would he have to. In effect, Loftus is suggesting that if God wanted to convince him God would have re-create everything in a way in line with how Loftus thinks reality should be. Does that make sense? Not to me. If there is a God, so far above and beyond myself, I wouldn't expect that God to do anything in which he must align His purposes with me, but that I should align myself to him. 

But what is done is done. If however, it takes omniscience (or near omniscience) to show the Christian faith is true, then God should also know that without it I could not think otherwise.

It's been stated over and over again - many atheists like Loftus demand a standard of evidence that they would not demand regarding anything else. The Bible does not tell us that it takes omniscience in order to find Him. It's not about just proving that Christianity is ontologically true its about knowing and relating to God. I agree that Christianity is true, but without knowing Jesus for yourself, what good is that knowledge? None. 

I might be wrong. But not even an omniscient God can show me that I willfully reject Christianity against the overwhelming evidence given that I am not omniscient and given what I find in this world. What the evidence leads me to think is that the Christian faith is wildly improbable.

I find it amazing that "improbable" is good enough for John Loftus to turn his back on Jesus - and admitting that he could be wrong. He has written many times that "improbable things" happen with an astounding frequency., and therefore gambling that the Bible is wrong (and given that he can't prove that it is) is a fool's bet.  

Debunking Christianity: Not Even an Omniscient God Could Convince Me That I Willfully Reject Christianity Against the Overwhelming Evidence
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Debate: Craig Evans & Bart Ehrman 2012 - Apologetics 315

Brian Auten has posted links to the 2-night debate between Dr Craig Evans and Dr Bart Ehrman.  The Debate topic was: Does the New Testament present a reliable portrait of the Historical Jesus? You can use the following link to Apologetics 315 to get links to both video and audio.

Debate: Craig Evans & Bart Ehrman 2012 - Apologetics 315
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Alan Moore And 'Before Watchmen' Creators Comment On The Ethics Of 'Watchmen' Prequel - ComicsAlliance | Comic book culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews

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One of the big stories today was that DC Comics will be presenting a group of miniseries that will be prequels to the epic The Watchmen by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons. Comics Alliance has done an excellent job reporting on the fall-out of this news. It's important because it brings up issues about how creators own their stories and who has the right to interpret and re-interpret another's work. And who gets paid! Of course Mr Moore claims its about principle and not about money but I think J. Michael Straczynski's comments best explain the issues.

J. Michael Straczynski, via Comic Book Resources:

We are all being very meticulous in how we tie in the events of our stories with the original "Watchmen." The first time we all met secretly in New York to discuss all this, we kept copies of "Watchmen" close at hand and whenever a question was raised about what happened to whom and when, we'd flip through looking for the slightest clue. I joked at the time that it looked like Saturday afternoon Bible Study.

I was very careful to stay within the parameters of what Alan created for Dr. Manhattan. But at the same time, you need the elbow room to create a story worth telling, which means something new has to be created. In this case, it came through looking at what Alan had done and asking the next logical question within that framework. As one example: it's always bothered me that someone as brilliant and precise about time as Jon could just blithely walk into the intrinsic field test chamber as the time-lock closed. He'd know better than that. But since it did happen, you now have to say, "Okay, that being the case, how did it happen? Is there something we don't know? Or more to the point, was there something he didn't know?"


Read More: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/02/01/alan-moore-dave-gibbons-before-watchmen-creators-quotes-ethics-prequel/#ixzz1lCW1hTZX



Alan Moore And 'Before Watchmen' Creators Comment On The Ethics Of 'Watchmen' Prequel - ComicsAlliance | Comic book culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Answering Muslims: James White Responds to Kamal Saleh

Oh well, David Wood has beaten me to posting a summary on issues surrounding Kamal Saleh's Video Why I Hate Religion But Love Jesus - Muslim Version. To understand what happen you have to realized that Saleh's video is itself a response to Jefferson's Bethke's poem Why I Hate Religion But Love Jesus. Therefore here is Bethke's video




Now look at Kamal Saleh's video.




See it? Big difference a really big difference. Fortunately, Dr James White teamed up with a lyricist,Ivey Conerly, to rebutt Saleh's errors. Here is that video. Dr White provided the theology and historical background and Conerly put the information into a poem




James White also provided a background video for those who want to hear this information in prose.




Answering Muslims: James White Responds to Kamal Saleh

Check out how Saleh tried to copy Bethke to twist the message and how Dr White and Conerly answered his claims. Saleh had not presented anything new, but it never hurts to revisit truth.

Earlier today Ivey Conerly was a guest on James White's podcast and they discussed all of this. You can follow this link to hear it:
Today on a Special Edition of the Dividing Line

Blaise’s Best Bet, Part 1: an Introduction to Blaise Pascal | Reflections

Dr Kenneth Samples is beginning a series of articles about Blaise Pascal. It's a introduction to the man and his work. Take a look.

Blaise’s Best Bet, Part 1: an Introduction to Blaise Pascal | Reflections

Sunday, January 29, 2012

Why Loving Jesus Is More Than A Religion

Jefferson Bethke's poem on YouTube, Why I hate Religion But Love Jesus, continues to inspire people - negatively and positively. I think that most of the negative reaction spins from a misunderstanding due to people's own traditions. I want to point to two responses that show case the difference between how Bethke's worldview and Atheism and Roman Catholicism. In case you missed my first post on Bethke's poem, please watch his video below





As for A Roman Catholic version, watch this one:




I see a fundamental difference between this video and Betheke's. This particular YouTuber is arguing that the only way you can have a relationship with Jesus is through guidance from the Roman Catholic Church. This was one of the main points of contention that started the Protestance reformation and after almost 500 years it is still relevant. Did Jesus really give us all we need to get to God or do we need more? The Reformer's answer to that is question was "Yes", so is Betheke's and so is mine. And like Bethke, the Reformers were not saying Church is not necessary or important, but that we don't need the traditions of men or to be self-righteous. We don't need a chorelist of do's and don'ts because God can and will help us to obey his commands but obeying his commands is not what saves us because none of can be sinless and perfect. Jesus is the only way - not Jesus plus your keeping church sacrements and following the Pope. Betheke is simply learned that what Jesus said is true and unfortunately many church-going people, let-alone non-Christians, miss this point.


23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” - John 4:23-24

As for an Atheistic comment, you can watch the following video. Be forewarned it contains profane language and is most definitely not safe for work (NSFW).




Like every atheist that I've ever encountered, this man is unable to see a difference between having a relationship with Christ and with Religion. I think Jefferson Bethke gets the difference.  Bethke is advocating not ritually attending church or working for others as a to-do-list to please other people or to earn your way into God. He's talking about surrendering your life to Jesus and putting yourself at His disposal because you love Him. I totally agree with Bethke. The closer you get to Jesus, the more you see what you are - and it's not pretty. When TheAmazingAtheist hears Christians talk of a relationship with Christ he reveals that he thinks that means Jesus is like some Pal, or Buddy, you can sit down with and "play XBox" or have brewskies with. I think a lot of people make that mistake. What the Bible teaches is that "relationship" means "Lord" and "servant". We obey and worship Him.  I don't know the last time you worshiped the dude you play XBox with, but I doubt you would. What does the Bible says that relationship should look like and on which it is based? I'd argue that all 66 books of the canonical Bible answers this question but I will offer two of those passages.



.18 “Come now, let us settle the matter,”
   says the LORD.
“Though your sins are like scarlet,
   they shall be as white as snow;
though they are red as crimson,
   they shall be like wool. Isaiah 1:18


1 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. - Ephesians 2:1-10

The Bible very clearly tells us that Jesus is our only way to turn away the wrath of a holy God. Who deserves eternal damnation and punishment for their sins?  ALL OF US.

 21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.  - Romans 3:212-25

That is why we need a savior. Someone to take the punishment we deserve,. No one in your Church can do that. It's either going to be you atoning for your sins or it's gonna be Jesus. You wouldn't survive paying such a debt. It takes the grace and mercy of God to see this, understand this, let alone accept it. It goes against every fiber of human ego and self-centeredness. Was there something special about you or good in you that caused Jesus to die for you in your place? Nope (Back to Ephesians 2). God chose to do it for us even when we didn't know we need it and didn't ask Him to do it. Should you love Jesus more than anyone or anything else? Yup. But what else did Jesus say? He tells us to love our parents  and families and treat them well. I wonder if TheAmazingAtheist has read all of the Gospels? I ask because if he had, wouldn't he know that he misunderstood Matthew 10:32-29. Jesus was not saying that you should ignore or mistreat your family because you love him. How do I know?

3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
   8 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
   but their hearts are far from me.

9 They worship me in vain;

   their teachings are merely human rules.’” - Matthew 15:3-9

How could Jesus, a scant 5 Chapters later chastise the religious leaders of his day for teaching people ditching their obligations to their families to perform religious ritual if that is what he had taught in Matthew 10? Let me help you: He didn't. Even the most skeptical person wouldn't really be crazy enough to try to argue that Matthew 10 and Matthew15 are contradictory and mutually exclusive and no one noticed for 2000 years - given that it was is written by the same author - regardless if you reject that it was the Apostle Matthew. Please, let's try to stay consistent. 



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Saturday, January 28, 2012

Pious Bologna:Republicans, Ronald Reagan, & Revisionist History

I think that this particular post is timely, give the rhetoric I keep hearing Republican Presidential hopefuls trying to invoke Regan like some magic formula or some thing or other. This post is well worth checking out especially since it includes the following chart of how much the National Debt increased during the administrations of all the Presidents since Regan. It says a lot.



Still want the good ole days, Mr Newt Gingrich?

Pious Bologna:Republicans, Ronald Reagan, & Revisionist History
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The Angry Bird Effect

Look the politicians and pundits are all wrong. The....real reason for the economic decline


Just a joke.

The Angry Bird Effect
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