Friday, May 27, 2011

Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Now that Judgment Day Has Arrived, What Will Family Radio Play?

The end of the world!Image by Newbirth35 via FlickrI was wondering what Camping would be teaching now? A caller called into Open Forum and asked him. She got the following instructions..... I mean....this is what Family Radio is gonna do.

1. Stop witnessing
2. No more tracts (can't have written documentation, y'know)
3. Play comforting music.
4. Read your Bible.

Summary:
So 1988, the Church came under Judgment...he says.
Now the whole earth is under judgment and no one else who was saved before May the 21st can be saved. And you can't know if you were saved.

Conclusion:
More lies. No repentance. The Bible says no  such things.

Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Now that Judgment Day Has Arrived, What Will Family Radio Play?
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Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Fearful Teen Commits Suicide Due to Harold Camping's Judgment Day Prediction

Harold Camping in 2008                         Image via WikipediaI thought that some people could be pushed by Harold Camping's propaganda into extreme and dangerous acts of desperation. A 14 year-old girl in Russia committed suicide because she thought she missed the rapture. A young man from Florida drowned when he jumped into the reservoir in Contra Loma Regional Park in Antioch, CA. I'm sure that Harold Camping does not really think he is responsible for this or anyone. The Bible tells us that people who teach his word are responsible for we teach others. Even if our government does not hold Camping responsible, God does  Jesus said:.

6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come! - Matthew 18:6-7


This is a great article. Here are some valuable resources about what is currently happening with this story.

Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Fearful Teen Commits Suicide Due to Harold Camping's Judgment Day Prediction
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Questions and Answers with Hank

What does Hank Hanegraaff think of the May 21st fiasco? He weighed in on his Bible Answer Man broadcast. I agree with him on how he is looking at this. You can find a video of his comments below at the link below and the accompanying video.


Hank Hanegraaff's Response to Harold Camping's Failed Prediction from Christian Research Institute on Vimeo.


Questions and Answers with Hank
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Fallacy Friday: Denying the Antecedent - Apologetics 315

This week Matthew Flannagan and Brian Auten's posts deal with the fallacy called "denying the antecedent".

Fallacy Friday: Denying the Antecedent - Apologetics 315
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Thursday, May 26, 2011

Translating Genesis 3:15 – Part 2 | Dr. Claude Mariottini – Professor of Old Testament

Dr. Mariottini has continued his series on exegeting Genesis 3:15. Read the article on his blog. It is worth it!

Translating Genesis 3:15 – Part 2 | Dr. Claude Mariottini – Professor of Old Testament
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Answering Muslims: Free Speech Victory in Dearborn, Michigan!

I've been following the story of Free Speech being attacked in favor of Islam in Dearborn, Michigan. David Wood has posted an important update and summary. Read it at the following link.

Answering Muslims: Free Speech Victory in Dearborn, Michigan!
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Chuggin' 40s With Obama While Ed Schultz Disses GOP "Sluts" Who Criticize Traveling POTUS - The Snob Blog - Danielle Belton's The Black Snob

Yes, racism and sexism pervades America as much as ever. The only difference today is that people don't seem to realize they are racist and bigoted. People used to be proud of their attitudes. Now they want to distance themselves from it, yet use them to keep people down. On Monday when I saw the news that President Obama and his family were in Ireland I already knew what was coming: he was going to be criticized for being in Ireland while the Midwest was being hit by tornadoes! The other shoe has indeed dropped.

From Mediaite:
Fox Business host Eric Bolling really stepped in it Monday when, in the middle of a rant about a lack of leadership, he said that President Obama was busy “chugging forties” in Ireland, instead of going to tornado-ravaged Missouri. “Forty” is slang for a 40 oz. bottle of malt liquor (or beer), a mainstay of ghetto iconography. Bolling later tweeted defiantly, “For the liberals offended by my “forty” comment, please read this….,” linking to a slang dictionary. According to pool reports, the President drank most of a pint glass, which, in Ireland, is about 20 oz.
I liked how Danielle Belton summarized the sheer stupidity on her blog. She wrote:

Sure, it's FINE to be prejudiced, just don't say that word! You can say everything but that word. Make weed, watermelon, monkey and fried chicken jokes and all will be fine if you just close it all with, "But white people like marijuana, watermelon, and friend chicken too and people called George W. Bush a monkey so, I win! I'm not racist!"
That way you can accuse President Obama of chuggin' 40 oz in Ireland (it was a pint of Guinness to be specific, not a bottle of Ol' English) and then be all, "What! Totally not racist! White people drink 40 ounces too!"
The sad thing is that Eric Bolling is so blind to his own racism he probably doesn't see how that could be offensive. It's not just republicans who have their foots in their mouths for saying stupid. Turns out that Democrats can be stupid too.

Which is why MSNBC's Ed Schultz called Keith Olbermann's ex-ladyfriend conservative radio shock jock Laura "Not Ann Coulter" Ingraham a "slut." Not for actually doing anything slutty of course. But because she's so good at shouting out various conservative talking points about Obama's Europe trip. Hence, she is a slut for the GOP. A word slut of some kind, perhaps. I don't know. I don't pretend to understand the kind of sexism where you can get called a slut for not actually having intercourse with numerous of males. If you're going to shout out misogyny, at least be accurate.
Is there something in water? Did Schultz and Bolling drink stupid juice or something? "Hater-aid" maybe? It's infuriating. Why would you take issue with someone's policies and opinions using racism and women-hating stupidity? Belton makes some great points in her post. Read her post at the following link.


Chuggin' 40s With Obama While Ed Schultz Disses GOP "Sluts" Who Criticize Traveling POTUS - The Snob Blog - Danielle Belton's The Black Snob
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Husband Dies Saving Wife From Joplin Tornado - Inspirational Videos - GodTube




Husband Dies Saving Wife From Joplin Tornado - Inspirational Videos - GodTube
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Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Translating Genesis 3:15 – Part 1 | Dr. Claude Mariottini – Professor of Old Testament

Dr Claude Mariottini is a professor of Old Testament studies. He has started a blog series of translating and understanding Genesis 3:15.


15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”(NIV)


This is what true exegesis looks like! Take notes!

Translating Genesis 3:15 – Part 1 | Dr. Claude Mariottini – Professor of Old Testament
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Answering Muslims: Who Corrupted the Gospel?

David Wood posted a really awesome article summarizing a great rebuttal to the Muslim polemic against Judaism and Christianity that the Bible has been corrupted and therefore has less authority than the Quran as the Word of God. In this article, there is way more to say about this other than "Nuh uh!!!" You can read David's Wood article at the following link.

Answering Muslims: Who Corrupted the Gospel?
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Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Why Lutherans say Salvation can be Lost, and the Reformed say it Can't

Martin Luther as a monk with tonsure.Image via WikipediaJames Swan has posted a very interesting article about "Eternal Security" or "Preservation of the Saints". Why do Lutherans reject it? I often wondered that myself. Follow the link to read his answer.

Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Why Lutherans say Salvation can be Lost, and the Reformed say it Can't
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THE INTERSECTION | MADNESS & REALITY: Dismantling Public Schools by Privatizing Education: Jailing Black Mothers Who Seek Better Future for Their Children

Privatizing education is just as bad as privatizing Health Care. It says that if you can't afford quality health care or quality education then you don't deserve it. Education is one of those things that everyone should have equal access to and if you don't make the best of it, then that is on you. But not giving everyone a level playing field in which to start is criminal. It's setting them up for failure. It's true that it's not just about race, it's about keeping the poor - black and white - economically disadvantaged and politically weak. God don't like it. Just read the Book of Amos if you don't know what God thinks about exploiting the poor and down-trodden. Also don't forget that God won't let our society get away with it. This article points out the sheer stupidness of punishing women from seeking better education for their children. Read the article at the following link:

THE INTERSECTION | MADNESS & REALITY: Dismantling Public Schools by Privatizing Education: Jailing Black Mothers Who Seek Better Future for Their Children
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FacePalm of the Day #80 - Wrong, root and branch; wrong at every cell and molecule; wrong to the core : Pharyngula

John Loftus posted a link to an article written by PZ Meyers about Harold Camping. I think it's worth looking at his post. There are things we can learn about the mind of the unregenerate sinner's mind. The article proves that although the Bible-believing Christian must reject Camping's teaching - agreeing with atheists on that point - the disagreement with Camping comes form a whole different set of reasons. PZ Meyers is just as wrong and deluded as Camping is deceived. I've re-posted Meyer's article with my comments in red.

The world didn't end last Saturday (obviously), but Harold Camping and his predictions are just a smokescreen, and everyone is missing the heart of the problem.

You mean that Camping being wrong and unrepentant doesn't mean the Bible is wrong? .I know...but one could hope.
Camping has now spoken. He now claims that Jesus did arrive 'spiritually' on the 21st, and that in his generous mercy, God has decided to spare us the 153 days of the tribulation, but that the world will still be ending on 21 October. This is no surprise. This is exactly what these crackpot prophets do: they're never right, but they are great at rationalizing.

 And just where in the Bible did Camping get all of that?  The Bible says no such thing.

His followers are busy readjusting. Here's a radio interview with one bible-thumper; the guy who threw away his life savings on subway signs was left wandering in Times Square, confused and disappointed. None of them has changed their beliefs about the biblical apocalypse, they're just fudging the dates.
The Family Radio website has been scrubbed clean of mentions of Judgment Day.
And what do I see from most people? A stern finger-wagging with biblical authority reaffirmed.

Biblical authority is affirmed because it is promised that false prophets will be shown for the frauds that they are. And notice how Camping does exactly opposite what the Bible says we should do.


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I was sent that image by someone who clearly thought it was a joke, but I am not laughing. I'm angry, instead. I don't fucking care what fucking Jesus fucking said. The problem is NOT that some kook in California plucked numbers out of the Bible and conjured up a numerological justification for a date: the idiocy runs much deeper than that.

 First, why the profanity? Can't we make valid points without being vulgar? In Meyer's case here it  is important to point out that we should care what Jesus said because when we find some one saying opposite and mutually exclusive claims - we know we have a false prophet.
  • The entire myth of dispensationalism — that time is divided into distinct ages with discrete beginnings and ends, characterized by distinct bodies of knowledge granted us by divine will — is nonsense. These fairy tales of a rapture and tribulation and world destruction are entirely the invention of crank theologians elaborating on the ravings of the 19th century Irish priest, John Nelson Darby. It's no more sourced or historical or rational than the goddamn Book of Mormon.
Obviously, Meyer's disagrees with Darby. Fine. Lots of Christians do.  Equating his ideas with the Book of Mormon shows that he probably doesn't know anything about the Book of Mormon. On top of that, given that he does not care about what Jesus said, he probably doesn't know what the Bible says about Darby's ideas anymore than he does about Camping.
  • Christian eschatology is a vile and hateful message about their imaginary tyrant god who, once again, is scheduled to have a temper tantrum in which he kills almost everyone, snatches up their souls, and makes them suffer for eternity for being human. A few will be spared; their reward is an eternity of servility, but at least they get to know they're better than everyone else. And that's the real lesson here: it's all about elitism and the most extreme threats imaginable to anyone who does not support these self-appointed masters of dogma. Again, there's no reason to believe any of it, other than that people have absorbed the propaganda for the whole of their lifetime.

I sure would like to know who Meyer talks to.  Not all Christians would agree with the eschatology he presents here. Easy to grab a straw man, knock it down (without proving it wrong), and then lump all Christians in it.  NO ONE IS GOING TO HEAVEN BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. No one who believes the Bible thinks that. Even Camping is not that dumb and he's got a lot of theological problems.
  • The Christian bible is supposed to be the ultimate source of authority, and to many of the more extreme, the only source of authority. It's got 'bible codes' in it; it's a rich vein of numerological bullshit to be mined; it's vagued, confused, ambiguous, and contradictory, a refuse heap of tribal gobbledygook hallowed by nothing other than long ages of accumulation. Our minds try desperately to find pattern and meaning in what we observe around us, and the best source to trigger all kinds of lunatic pattern generating theories is a nearly totally incoherent mass of text with huge cultural signposts pointing at it and screaming that it is important.
    It's like being told that a tangled, confusing clump of jungle, all bewildering with shadow and random shapes slashing across it, is the home of a fierce tiger that will kill you if you get close. Stare hard at it, and you can convince yourself that there is something dangerous lurking there, even if it contains no animal larger than a rabbit.
Bible codes and numerology "gobbledygook" is what makes the Bible confused, ambiguous, and contradictory,. This is what Camping has done, not what Biblical Christianity is. Meyer makes a lot of broad generalizations with no proof.   He describes Camping's  errors "doctrine" very well but doesn't really seem to have a handle at all what the Bible says salvation is or who Jesus is and why it's important. Pathetically, neither does Camping.
    Sure, everyone is laughing at Harold Camping now, except his followers, who are undeterred. But you're missing the real joke. Look at every Abrahamic religion, with their myths of prophets and favored peoples and fate. Look at the crazy conservative church in your town, that preaches homophobia and anti-science and supports Israel because of the Armageddon prophecy. Look at the liberal Christian church down the street from you that has the nice Vacation Bible School and puts on happy plays for the older kids, and also teaches that one day you will stand before a great god and be judged. Look at your family members who blithely believe in death as a mini-apocalypse, in which they will be magically translated into another realm, again to be judged.

     "Magic" has nothing to do with it. Again, pointing to Camping is really bad example of what Christians believe and think. If you read the Bible like he does no wonder you think that the Bible is useless. All you have to do is read it. Look at it in the same way you read anything from a historical, cultural,  and plain context and you cannot get out of it what Meyer or  Camping get out of the Bible.  Meyer revealed he doesn't care What Jesus said,. Then how do you know Camping is wrong or anyone for that matter is wrong?   Without a standard, you can't know. Harold Camping makes an awful standard.

    It's the very same rot, the poison of religion that twists minds away from reality and fastens them on hellish bogeymen. They're demented fuckwits, every one, and the big lie rests right on the fundamental beliefs of supernaturalism and deities, not on the ephemera of one crank's bizarre interpretations.
    And to the next person who quotes Matthew 24:36 at me: you're part of the problem, too.

    Did  Camping lie about what the Bible says? Yup. It's stupid and unscientific to throw the Bible under the proverbial bus based on his lie.   Meyer already had the conclusion that the Bible was a lie before May 21 2011 and he is using Camping to validate that belief.  The logical problem is that according to the Bible  Camping is liar n and stands condemned.  Meyer is standing with him also condemned.  But if we repent of our sin and put our trust in Jesus Christ we will not be condemned with Camping.

    Wrong, root and branch; wrong at every cell and molecule; wrong to the core : Pharyngula
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    Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Bill Shishko and other Pastors Review Harold Camping

    James Swan has recently posted a couple audios from Rev Bill Shishko on a couple of shows he did on Harold Camping. This is valuable because he knew Harold Camping and he is one of those who have tried to talk to Camping and asked him to repent of his heresies. Really interesting.

    Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Bill Shishko and other Pastors Review Harold Camping
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    Tuesday, May 24, 2011

    THE INTERSECTION | MADNESS & REALITY: The Problem With Beyonce's "Run The World (Girls)"


    I found this particular article extremely interesting! I like Beyonce! I even like the video (except the part when she give the camera "The Finger") but this article points out that this music video does not represent reality. Women all over the world are being persecuted and are suffering. This is true, beyond question. We can't forget that. This is an important point:

    At the time Beyonce was singing that "girls run the world," 48 women were being raped per hour in the Congo, and their calls for justice were being ignored. Black women are dying at an alarming rate due to maternal death. If you think this is going on in some poor country in Africa or Latin America alone, you would be sorely mistaken. That's happening on American soil at this very moment
    Also:

    They [the woman in the video] dance to appease the male gaze. If girls run the world, why are you dancing for the men, and not the other way around? Mind, I don't want male subservience either. But no one thought about an alternate universe, where powerful women are at the head of boardrooms? No one thought to dress her up as the POTUS with an all-female staff; all-female military commanders?


    I have to admit some people look at this video and just say "It's just art. Don't get deep with it?" I say say, Why not think? Of course it's entertainment, but we can't forget to be sober minded and don't get it confused with reailty.




    THE INTERSECTION | MADNESS & REALITY: The Problem With Beyonce's "Run The World (Girls)"
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    Snap This: Animal Life Span Chart « : Crushable - Crushable gives you the celebrity news, style and scoop on the stuff you care about.
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    Ooops..it was a "spiritual" meaning!

    Mike Felker has pointed out an article in which Harold Camping explained why his May 21, 2011 date for the rapture is wrong. So what about all the people's lives rocked and destroyed because they believed Camping's hogwash?


    Monday, rather than give his normal daily broadcast, Camping took questions as a part of his show, "Open Forum," which transmits his biblical interpretations via the group's radio stations, TV channels, satellite broadcasts and website.
    Camping's hands shook slightly as he pinned his microphone to his lapel, and as he clutched a worn Bible he spoke in a quivery monotone about some listeners' earthly concerns after giving away possessions in expectation of the Rapture.
    Family Radio would never tell anyone what they should do with their belongings, and those who had fewer would cope, Camping said.
    "We're not in the business of financial advice," he said. "We're in the business of telling people there's someone who you can maybe talk to, maybe pray to, and that's God."
    But he also said that he wouldn't give away all his possessions ahead of Oct 21.
    "I still have to live in a house, I still have to drive a car," he said. "What would be the value of that? If it is Judgment Day why would I give it away?"


    Unbelievable!I loved Mike's summation of Camping's explanation.

    When your doomsday end-of-the-world prediction doesn't come to pass; give it a "spiritual" meaning instead.


    I do hold Camping responsible, but those people ignored the Bible and listened to Camping instead are not free of accountability. IT would help if Camping would really admit that he was wrong, repent, and ask for forgiveness. Not yet, but God is still in the business of Miracles.

    THE APOLOGETIC FRONT: Silly me...it was a "spiritual" meaning!
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    Monday, May 23, 2011

    FacePalm of the Day #79 - Pamela Geller, WND: An illegitimate child, an illegitimate president - Atlas Shrugs

    Pamela Geller wrote this really insane article spinning the information I had just posted today about the records of President Obama's father's immigration records in a way that is just really stupid.
    It is interesting to note that BHO I claims in the documents to have divorced first wife, Kezia, "verbally." According to the Shariah, a man can divorce his wife by repeating it three times. Further, when BHO I returned to Kenya, he apparently lived with his first Kenyan wife and his American third wife, suggesting that the "divorce" he ostensibly secured to marry Dunham was a transitory ruse.
    Dumb! There is no proof of that. In ancient Judaism, Divorce was not much more elaborate than this wither to be considered legal. The other article I posted about on this issue explicitly explains that by 1964, Obama Sr said that he and the President's mother had been divorced.

    That would make the president illegitimate. In 1787, illegitimate children had different rights. There is no way the founders of this great nation intended for an illegitimate child of a foreign bigamist to attain the highest, most powerful position in the new land.
    Um...nope! How dare she imply that people born out of wedlock deserve less right than people who were conceived by married parents. This is simply wrong. Since when has the United States legally ignores marriages and divorces just because they were in another country. Who says that 1787 laws are still in effect today. If they were then the President's father could have been executed for looking at a white woman let alone marrying a white woman.

    All this means that President Barack Hussein Obama is not natural born. His father was not a U.S. citizen; he is, by that very fact, disqualified to serve as president of the United States. Those who believe that the "natural born" requirement is no longer relevant in our modern age are wrong. The Founding Fathers added this to the requirements for someone serving as president to make it difficult for a spy or traitor to attain the highest office in the land. Clearly, from Obama's performance, this is a considerable cause for concern.
    How does that conclusion follow. Just because a person's parents are not U.S Citizen does not mean that a person born on U.S. soil is not a citizen. This truly an epic failure in logic. Racism makes people do and think really stupid things.


    Pamela Geller, WND: An illegitimate child, an illegitimate president - Atlas Shrugs
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    An Open Letter to Harold Camping of Family Radio

    James White has written an open letter to Harold Camping of Family Radio urging him to come to his senses. You can read it here:

    An Open Letter to Harold Camping of Family Radio

    What has Camping to say today given how wrong he was about May 21, 2011? James White responded to what Camping had to say. He quotes Camping and comments:

    "We had all of our dates correct. We had all our proofs correct." "May 21 was a spiritual coming...He has come, in the sense that He now has the world under judgment." Well, I pretty well called that one, sadly. I had a feeling we would be stuck with this foolishness until October 21, 2011. What an amazingly foolish thing: "Well, folks, we only have 153 days to go, but, hey, we aren't going to put up billboards and stuff, we are going to play music and do teaching about how to live as a good Christian." Brilliant. I can't wait to see the video of this.





    The comment can be found here.
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    Iron Sharpens Iron: James White: Harold Camping and the End of the World

    Harold Camping in 2008James White was a guest on Iron Sharpens Iron discussing this fiasco with Harold Camping failed prophecy. Follow the link to Iron Shapens Iron.


    Iron Sharpens Iron: James White: Harold Camping and the End of the World
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